Omaha hand

[matt674]

Not my best game but can hold my own - we are down to the final 6 and two of us hold a chip lead over the other 4 when the following hand occurs in a battle of the blinds. Would appreciate opinions on how others would play it.

PokerStars Game #8427129385: Tournament #42679445, $8.00+$0.80 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2007/02/13 - 19:10:49 (ET)
Table '42679445 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: Mr_e_Joker (31580 in chips)
Seat 3: anuhoc (39880 in chips)
Seat 4: barr_b2 (17066 in chips)
Seat 5: tommi1212 (75950 in chips)
Seat 6: matt674 (93934 in chips)
Seat 8: 8count (19090 in chips)
tommi1212: posts small blind 1500
matt674: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to matt674 [ ]
8count: folds
Mr_e_Joker: folds
anuhoc: folds
barr_b2: folds
tommi1212: calls 1500
matt674: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
tommi1212: bets 6000

so what's your move?

[Royal Flush]

24 to go.

[thetank]

With top 2 and low flush draw I'm not writing home to mum, but the pot is heads up.

I think I'm definately going to pump it up, and definately deep enough to get away if things come back to me with re raisins on them.

I raise 12k more to 18k total (probably).

[ifm]

Call and see a cheap turn, if you improve then great if not you ain't hurt.

[thetank]

Not an omaha expert by any stretch of the imagination.

I was worried about a 3,5,6,8,10, J or club on the turn though. (The 3 and 8 more than the others)

Am I being overly cautious wanting to raise here? Also thought I might get bigger spade draw to pass.

[Royal Flush]

Call and see a cheap turn, if you improve then great if not you ain't hurt.

It's hard to improve 'safe' other than a 9 or a 7

[boldie]

The raise to 18 - 24 sounds right to me. the turn is going to be tricky if, like Flushy says, you don't get a 7 or a 9.
You have to raise here if you want any real shot at the pot, if he doesn't fold to a raise here he probably won't anywhere.

[ifm]

Call and see a cheap turn, if you improve then great if not you ain't hurt.

It's hard to improve 'safe' other than a 9 or a 7

Exactly, you raise he reraises you can't call.

[Royal Flush]

Call and see a cheap turn, if you improve then great if not you ain't hurt.

It's hard to improve 'safe' other than a 9 or a 7

Exactly, you raise he reraises you can't call.

On the flop i am getting this in, top 2 fd and backdoor str8 chances.

[matt674]

I reraised the pot and the hand continued as follows:

PokerStars Game #8427129385: Tournament #42679445, $8.00+$0.80 Omaha Pot Limit -
Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2007/02/13 - 19:10:49 (ET)
Table '42679445 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: Mr_e_Joker (31580 in chips)
Seat 3: anuhoc (39880 in chips)
Seat 4: barr_b2 (17066 in chips)
Seat 5: tommi1212 (75950 in chips)
Seat 6: matt674 (93934 in chips)
Seat 8: 8count (19090 in chips)
tommi1212: posts small blind 1500
matt674: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to matt674 [ ]
8count: folds
Mr_e_Joker: folds
anuhoc: folds
barr_b2: folds
tommi1212: calls 1500
matt674: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
tommi1212: bets 6000
matt674: raises 18000 to 24000
tommi1212: calls 18000
*** TURN *** [ ] [ ]
tommi1212: checks

so now what??

[boldie]

Now what? now you recheck your post and actually let us know what the turn was

[ifm]

now you move allin or check (of course if you check he's almost certainly allin).

[matt674]

Now what? now you recheck your post and actually let us know what the turn was

apologies, when i rechecked the hand history that i'd copied and pasted from the email the turn was in the text but it just said td instead of 

[boldie]

now you move allin or check (of course if you check he's almost certainly allin).

Yep it's do or die time. If you check here you will most likely lose the pot on the river ad unless the river comes down a 7 or 9 you can't call.

Checking is fine if you are thinking longer term and don't mind letting go of this one pot. anything else is a push.

[ifm]

The thing is if he called your reraise with the flush draw only it's fine ANYTHING else and you are likely behind now (or already were).
Is he likely to call just with the flush draw?
At this stage it really is a judgement call, if you bet you have to bet big or just let it go.