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« Reply #210 on: June 21, 2007, 10:56:34 PM »

she has a great irish accent...
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« Reply #211 on: June 21, 2007, 11:01:07 PM »

Yep - have to agree Kara is great - a real natural.
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« Reply #212 on: June 21, 2007, 11:02:41 PM »

u been lookin at the cuffs Claire
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« Reply #213 on: June 21, 2007, 11:04:15 PM »

u been lookin at the cuffs Claire

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« Reply #214 on: June 21, 2007, 11:09:49 PM »

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And isn't Kars a real STAR? She must be the revelation of the Show, & I think she will go far.

You ain't so bad yourself Tikay,  although they love taking the piss on Blonde LOL

Why you don't have more friends worries me ? Is it the manbag or something.....

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« Reply #215 on: June 21, 2007, 11:17:01 PM »

Yep - have to agree Kara is great - a real natural.

Kara is bloody wonderful!!

I must admit, I enjoy watching it when Kara, Helen, Tikay or Norman are on.  The right balance between entertainment and poker.  It's a difficult balance between 'good poker' and a show that can be aired over 3 hours.  I'm sure it will develop over time.

I don't play the Open that frequently - the structure doesn't suit my tight game.  But I do play it for fun occasionally - especially when there's a fellow Blonde on the show.

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« Reply #216 on: June 21, 2007, 11:19:51 PM »

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And isn't Kars a real STAR? She must be the revelation of the Show, & I think she will go far.

You ain't so bad yourself Tikay,  although they love taking the piss on Blonde LOL

Why you don't have more friends worries me ? Is it the manbag or something.....

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« Reply #217 on: June 21, 2007, 11:32:19 PM »

One thing I was musing the other day is that I don't think I've ever seen a hand analysed on the show where the play didn't go all the way down to the river (please correct me if I'm wrong).  It would be good to see a number of other hands where some clever play has taken a pot on the flop or the turn.   I'm not sure if it's a regular feature now, but I recall seeing in some shows where the action at a single table is followed for 4 or 5 hands in a row.  Personally, I'd like to see all the studio analysis done in that way.  Maybe take one table every couple of levels and just talk through a few hands, even if some of them are just 'ordinary'.

Just watching now and they go to a table (think 2 tables left) and say they are going to stay on it for 3 hands.

1st shorty 66 into KK
2nd A4 pushes into AQ
3rd A4 pushes into KK (same guy with KK Rack!)  all hold BTW (cause they don't for me)

Would be more interesting especially given some of the mental play that i have seen on here if they spent some time in the earlier levels.

Funny this thread got re-igniting today as i played it last night for the first time in ages i normally avoid it due to nature of the game is pretty tough to play for me. I don't mind the quick structure as it is not hugely different to Tribeca MTT's with 8 min levels but unfortunately Tribeca probably gave you about 3 times the hands per level (a guess but certainly far more). The software/website being so slow in the amount of hands dealt is the big problem for me as i would like to play it more with a bit more room/time as there is huge value in a lot of the play there IMO.

Total pipedream but can you imagine the traffic on the site if they had the old Tribeca software a lot of the people here are missing i suspect?
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« Reply #218 on: June 21, 2007, 11:33:15 PM »

Is it the manbag or something.....


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« Reply #219 on: June 21, 2007, 11:34:09 PM »


Total pipedream but can you imagine the traffic on the site if they had the old Tribeca software a lot of the people here are missing i suspect?


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« Reply #220 on: June 21, 2007, 11:55:11 PM »

One thing I was musing the other day is that I don't think I've ever seen a hand analysed on the show where the play didn't go all the way down to the river (please correct me if I'm wrong).  It would be good to see a number of other hands where some clever play has taken a pot on the flop or the turn.   I'm not sure if it's a regular feature now, but I recall seeing in some shows where the action at a single table is followed for 4 or 5 hands in a row.  Personally, I'd like to see all the studio analysis done in that way.  Maybe take one table every couple of levels and just talk through a few hands, even if some of them are just 'ordinary'.

Just watching now and they go to a table (think 2 tables left) and say they are going to stay on it for 3 hands.

1st shorty 66 into KK
2nd A4 pushes into AQ
3rd A4 pushes into KK (same guy with KK Rack!)  all hold BTW (cause they don't for me)

Would be more interesting especially given some of the mental play that i have seen on here if they spent some time in the earlier levels.

Funny this thread got re-igniting today as i played it last night for the first time in ages i normally avoid it due to nature of the game is pretty tough to play for me. I don't mind the quick structure as it is not hugely different to Tribeca MTT's with 8 min levels but unfortunately Tribeca probably gave you about 3 times the hands per level (a guess but certainly far more). The software/website being so slow in the amount of hands dealt is the big problem for me as i would like to play it more with a bit more room/time as there is huge value in a lot of the play there IMO.

Total pipedream but can you imagine the traffic on the site if they had the old Tribeca software a lot of the people here are missing i suspect?


I think they'll be interested in that suggestion of the "consecutive hands" section earlier in the show, good point Jimmy.
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« Reply #221 on: June 22, 2007, 12:03:20 AM »


Unbelievable, disconnect on final table :~(   

Cheeky-T who they kept calling a 'he' even thouge 'she' had a femail avatar Huh??

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« Reply #222 on: June 22, 2007, 08:18:17 AM »

Just watching now and they go to a table (think 2 tables left) and say they are going to stay on it for 3 hands.

1st shorty 66 into KK
2nd A4 pushes into AQ
3rd A4 pushes into KK (same guy with KK Rack!)  all hold BTW (cause they don't for me)

Would be more interesting especially given some of the mental play that i have seen on here if they spent some time in the earlier levels.

I was that short stack who pushed with 66. I had been card dead for ages and had only survived as long as I did by pushing with nothing at the right time to pick up the blinds. Was naturally gutted to see table chip leader with KK and hit a K on the flop as he had been bullying the table and always hitting his hands.
Given the blind structure there is unfortuantely no choice but to push with very marginal hands. I think at the time I pushed I was in 11/12 place on less than 5 bb.

I appreciate that the format has to fit with the time slot of the TV show, but an extra 30-60 minutes durration to the length of the tourney from tweaking the blind structure a bit would make the more exciting latter stages much less of a crapshoot.
I know this has been mentioned in other threads a few times previously but I think if a method could be worked out to slow down the last stages of the tourney that it would be much more enjoyable and attract more people (no point until the maximum number of players is raised beyond 600)
Starting an hour or so earlier and slowing down the blinds would give the production crew a chance to pick the select hands (by select I mean normal play for a lot of them including hands which don't always go to the river) which could be shown in the first part of the show. I know the reason against this has been stated that there is a chance the studio guests would be out of the tourney before the TV show has even started, but to be honest now that I have been watching the show for a long while I am only interested in the guests play when they progress further into the competition.
Maybe if they do go out early their hands could be shown prior to letting us know they were out, that way we would not be expecting the hand shown to end up with them losing and might actually prove to be more interesting as a viewer. (just dont implement any such crazy ideas prior to the end of july when I am on a winners night as a guest!)

Let's face it, the guests on the show seem to be playing a smaller and smaller part more recently and more focus is rightly placed on the hand analysis so maybe this format wouldn't have as much of a negative effect on the show as it previosuly would have.


One general comment on the show for the sky suits, by far the best guest on the show so far was on the primo night with Action Jackson. His input was great and his observations very astute. Particularly when the chip leader and 2nd place were sat adjacent to each other and both were trying to assert themselves as the table boss with raises and reraises. I'm so glad I got moved from this table after I pushed the chip leader about alot as it was only a matter of time until she picked up a big hand against me and a train wreck ensued!


In short(!) keep doing what you lot are doing, keep the new features and formats coming as this is what keeps everything as fresh as can be and stops the show becoming too tired.

Look forward to meeting some of you in Brum tomorrow, any oats supplied will be greatly recieved!
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« Reply #223 on: June 22, 2007, 11:07:00 AM »

I appreciate that the format has to fit with the time slot of the TV show, but an extra 30-60 minutes durration to the length of the tourney from tweaking the blind structure a bit would make the more exciting latter stages much less of a crapshoot.
I know this has been mentioned in other threads a few times previously but I think if a method could be worked out to slow down the last stages of the tourney that it would be much more enjoyable and attract more people (no point until the maximum number of players is raised beyond 600)
Starting an hour or so earlier and slowing down the blinds would give the production crew a chance to pick the select hands (by select I mean normal play for a lot of them including hands which don't always go to the river) which could be shown in the first part of the show. I know the reason against this has been stated that there is a chance the studio guests would be out of the tourney before the TV show has even started, but to be honest now that I have been watching the show for a long while I am only interested in the guests play when they progress further into the competition.
Maybe if they do go out early their hands could be shown prior to letting us know they were out, that way we would not be expecting the hand shown to end up with them losing and might actually prove to be more interesting as a viewer. (just dont implement any such crazy ideas prior to the end of july when I am on a winners night as a guest!)

Let's face it, the guests on the show seem to be playing a smaller and smaller part more recently and more focus is rightly placed on the hand analysis so maybe this format wouldn't have as much of a negative effect on the show as it previosuly would have.



So good points here.

Just want to re-( re-re- ? ) reiterate the idea on slowing down the blinds towards the last few tables.  It's always good to see the FT last at least a little while.  That, added to hand on hand action ( !? ) would give us, at least an idea, of who is a lucky donk, & who is at least semi-skilled.

And to the hand analysis ; I'm an ex pnl'er and think you can see the difference when these guys get their teeth into it.  but especially I wanted to say what a great move it is to get Nick W involved.  I always had him down as vastly underated at the analysis lark, and it great to see the way he can keep things light, but still chuck in the odd nugget.

Whoever decided to put him on with Kara as a first show deserves a bonus, they always work well together.

Also , for the future. 

I see a some nights there are only 2 guests.  Why not go all the way and have some nights with just the one, really special guest. 

Harping back to the ex pnl ( I'll tell you what's wrong with it - It's dead, that's what's wrong with it ).  Nick Persaud did some GREAT analysis in the late days  - Maybe Foxy could do the same on his return from his 'hols'.  To get a TOP pro on a show like that would be rather cool.

Also, who was responsible for getting Jesus, The Unabomber & The Magician on.  Ffs give him a job on sky - sharpish.

And finally.  Steve Davis.  You get him on for an evening, with Helen & Casper.   I'd watch it.
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« Reply #224 on: June 22, 2007, 11:13:47 AM »

Possibly a controversial suggestion, but I actually think the show would work better without studio guests.  Maybe I'm wrong, but (unless it's someone we know) I can't imagine people tune in just because of the draw of the 'celebrities'.  The time spent chatting to the guests and reviewing their hands etc could be better spent, I feel, on the analysis of the game.  The door would also be left open then for the games to start an hour or so before the show broadcasts, allowing for either a slower structure towards the end of the games, as some have suggested, or for a larger field of players.
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