Forgive me for being cynical...

[Mark S.]

...but when some guy called Simon Young gets a job writing articles about poker in the SUN newspaper (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005450000-2005450333,00.html) it really is time to take stock of just how demented our game has become.

On one hand you have the likes of Dave U, Harry D, Joe B, Barney B, Dave C et al doing their best to promote the game is a positive manner and on the next you have another muppet 'newbie' (Simon Young in this case) giving out the viirtues of how great it is that he's only been playing poker for 6 months and he's already on a European tour!

For those of us that have served an apprentice in the game I get real pissed off at the jokers who come into the game and pretend its soooooo easy to do and anyone can do what they do if they only had the dough and a national newspaper to back them!

Well duh!!

[TightEnd]

good luck to him, if he's got the chutzpah to persuade News International to bankroll him on the EPT then well done


He, and with it Murdoch's money, is likely to be dead money so why not embrace it and encourage even more of these people with unlimited, if temporary, bankrolls in the game

It's the same with most of the celebs...I might not want to watch Celebrity Poker meets Peter Andre wife swapping whilst making over my garden with Laurence Llewellyn Bowen on ITV1 at 12.30am, but until they get good (Helen Chamberlain, Michael Greco these days) I want them in my comps or my cash game


Snobbery costs money UKPoker, be inclusive and get their dough quietly, you'll be alright!

[ariston]

Disgraceful how a player with no track record can get sponsorship and write a column in a national newspaper. What next for the poker nobodies- book deals maybe? Bet within 6 months hes starting 38 new threads a day on internet poker forums.

[AdamM]

there is NO apprenticeship to the game. I've been playing 5 years and am still slogging it out in the sub-£50 comps. you make it sound like this guys has less right to play / win a big comp than me and in turn I have less right than you. you put your money up and take your shot. if the money is coming from a newpaper, an online poker site sponsorship or sales of a book, it's no business of anyones opponents. if he's good enough he'll win, if he's not he'll loose. If you're not good enough to beat players this new to the game, you're not good enough period.

good luck to him

[byronkincaid]

Why hate? The geezers blagged his way onto the EPT. I'd try to do the same if I was a journalist. Not too different from say a young Jeremy Clarkson blagging his way into driving around in nice cars all day. Hopefully he'll be able to convey the excitment of Poker to the Sun readership and it'll lead to more beginners playing. The Sun seems to be promoting poker quite a lot. They even had a photo of some muppet who calls himself byronkincaid in their centre pages the other day. (BTW If anyone has played Ray Parlour could you let me know if he's any good please?)

If he does well it might lead to another Big Deal or Positively 5th Street kind of book. Good luck to him.

[TightEnd]

Why hate? The geezers blagged his way onto the EPT. I'd try to do the same if I was a journalist. Not too different from say a young Jeremy Clarkson blagging his way into driving around in nice cars all day. Hopefully he'll be able to convey the excitment of Poker to the Sun readership and it'll lead to more beginners playing. The Sun seems to be promoting poker quite a lot. They even had a photo of some muppet who calls himself byronkincaid in their centre pages the other day. (BTW If anyone has played Ray Parlour could you let me know if he's any good please?)

If he does well it might lead to another Big Deal or Positively 5th Street kind of book. Good luck to him.

Ray Parlour is a hopeless gambler (horses/poker/the lot)....loose, aggresive. These days though he's not on the sauce as much, so it takes him longer to do his dosh. This is gained from playing against him once in a charity do. I am extrapolating that he plays this way all the time, so don't take it as 100% gospel


Not as good as Sheringham, as bad as Etherington.

[byronkincaid]

Thanks TightEnd.

[TightEnd]

OK, Here's why you want celebs in your game (as texted to me this morning)


EPT media event last night


A pot with Moneymaker and John McCririck, the racing pundit


Board is  asp kc qd jc th

Moneymaker bets on the end

McCririck, thinks, thinks some more and folds

[AdamM]

beautiful

[TightEnd]

I, myself, am probably around the 80-85% mark in correct decision making but the poker gods would have us believe thats not good enough...and it isn't.

Mark, Adam is just starting up a small business. I would suspect he would love to play bigger events but has other priorities. Please don't assume it is a lack of ability on his behalf

As to the statement I have highlighted...I am just stepping outside the tent now, and I may be some time


P.S Have a look at www.Shuffleupshirts.com.

Buy a t-shirt. Make someone happy.

thanks

[AdamM]

Adam...have you ever stopped to wonder WHY it is you're still playing in the sub £50 comps? Do you WANT to play in the £100-£500 comps? Whats stopping you?

you cheeky shit, how dare you?
 
you know nothing about my game or my circumstances. I started playing live Jan 2004 and haev had a lot of nice results at the level I'm playing at. In that time I've lost one job through stress, another through redundancy and have had a second child arrive. before the second job loss I'd moved to a larger house to accomodate the growing family and so, having lost the second job any bank roll I had was plundered to feed the family. as soon as I win any money it goes straight into the bills account. I'm grindind while I get my business up and running, then I intend to take on bigger games where, I have some belief, my game will hold up.

It's that kind of sharp poorly thought out response that makes it difficult for normally friendly guys like me and my fellow blondites to resist flaming you when we would not normally do so.

watch your mouth Mark

[AdamM]

thanks T E

[action man]

get that chip off your shoulder mark

[TightEnd]

I sort of anticipated your response Adam, mine would have been the same

Adam, do me a favour? count to ten thousand and leave it there please

[AdamM]

deep breaths, remain calm.
I am at one with the world

and relax