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« on: March 29, 2007, 01:01:27 PM »

I finished work late last night, and decided about 6pm to play in the £10 rebuy at rileys snooker club in ipswich.

About 3 hands in this happened - what is the correct decision

A shorty goes all in and 2 bigger stacks call - with obviously the option of playing a side pot. Check check after the flop, and check check after the turn.

The river is then dealt and 1 of the lads who still has chips and can build a sidepot turns over his cards and announces Straight!!!! (he was 1st to act|)

The other guy in the hand mucks his hand.

IT IS ONLY THEN POINTED OUT THAT HE DOESNT HAVE A STRAIGHT!!!!!

The guy who mucked as he was told his opponent had a straight - would have won the hand.

What happens
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 01:03:37 PM »

The mucked hand is dead.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 01:04:56 PM »

Mucked is mucked, nothing can be done.

Player with  fuffed straight wins side pot, and plays off against the all-in chap for the main pot.

The player who tossed away the winning hand hopefully learns from this.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 01:05:15 PM »

the guy who mucked his hand is now out of it and its a showdown between the all in guy and the guy that cant read his hand
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 01:07:18 PM »

Has the mucked hand touched other cards? if not, it can be retrieved and is still live.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 01:12:15 PM »

when the guy said straight he threw his cards in the middle!!!

Obviously when people pointed out he didnt have a straight he grabbed them back. Shouldnt the player who miss called his hand be penalised
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 01:15:30 PM »

Did he reveal his cards before the end of the betting? 

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 01:16:14 PM »

he called straight when the river was dealt- there was still betting ot be done
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 01:17:20 PM »

rileys cant run snooker   never mind poker imo.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 01:20:14 PM »

in fairness it is a well run game - no complaints from me

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »

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(6)ii - Never trust a poker player
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2007, 01:27:51 PM »

I'm no expert, but would have thought the pot would be won buy the only player that hasn't mucked/revealed hand before the end of the betting round?
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2007, 01:31:16 PM »

I'm no expert, but would have thought the pot would be won buy the only player that hasn't mucked/revealed hand before the end of the betting round?

You're making sense - but the the qusestion arises - what happens to the side pot - as the 2 players involved have managed to in one case reveal the hand while betting is still to take place, or muck?
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2007, 01:35:02 PM »

I'm no expert, but would have thought the pot would be won buy the only player that hasn't mucked/revealed hand before the end of the betting round?

You're making sense - but the the qusestion arises - what happens to the side pot - as the 2 players involved have managed to in one case reveal the hand while betting is still to take place, or muck?

Revealed hand stands, but can't bet, mucked hand is dead.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 01:37:51 PM »

from my understanding there wasnt a side pot. There was the option of creating one but the player first to speak after the river was dealt turned his cards over before the betting action could commence.

However the other person who was involved with potentially building a side pot - instead of saying that his opponent had revealed his cards before betting had taken place instead decided to muck his hand, meaning his hand was dead and he was no longer involved in the pot.

This meant that now a showdown occured between the all in short stack and the player who declared "straight" but in fact had nothing.

The chips should be given to whoever had the best hand of these two (the non-straight player may still have had the best hand)

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