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redimp
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Do you believe in fate?
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Iam a massive believer in fate.
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Quote from: redimp on April 22, 2007, 01:12:53 AM
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No - not in the slightest.
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I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
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Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
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Quote from: totalise on April 22, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Of course, chance means some people will have more luck than others. But i was referring to the fact that some people can 'earn' their luck. Chance favouring the prepared and all that and being ready to make the most of your luck, etc.
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Quote from: totalise on April 22, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Is believing in fate not akin to believing the universe is rigged?
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Quote from: Claw75 on April 22, 2007, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: totalise on April 22, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Is believing in fate not akin to believing the universe is rigged?
Yes, it does say that in my book. It also goes against my understanding of quantum physics, and as such goes against my understanding of things.
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Quote from: Claw75 on April 22, 2007, 01:29:26 AM
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Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Is believing in fate not akin to believing the universe is rigged?
Yes, it does say that in my book. It also goes against my understanding of quantum physics, and as such goes against my understanding of things.
I don't know anything about quantum physics, but I do believe in freedom of choice and cause and effect, so that rules fate out for me.
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Re: Do you believe in fate?
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Quote from: Claw75 on April 22, 2007, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: totalise on April 22, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Is believing in fate not akin to believing the universe is rigged?
Yes, it does say that in my book. It also goes against my understanding of quantum physics, and as such goes against my understanding of things.
I also don't believe that there's "one right person - the perfect partner" out there. I've found a brilliant wife who I know I'm going to spend the rest of my life with. But if we hadn't met (by chance), then I'd have found someone else - and hopefully they'd have been as compatible and wonderful. But that's different to fate.
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Re: Do you believe in fate?
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Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:33:39 AM
Quote from: Claw75 on April 22, 2007, 01:29:26 AM
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Quote from: kinboshi on April 22, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
I'm a believer in science. So no - fate would go against what I understand about maths and physics.
However, I do believe that some people appear to be inherently lucky, but that's something else completely.
thats just mathematically logical.. if everyone got the same amount of luck, thats when I'd think the universe was rigged
Is believing in fate not akin to believing the universe is rigged?
Yes, it does say that in my book. It also goes against my understanding of quantum physics, and as such goes against my understanding of things.
I also don't believe that there's "one right person - the perfect partner" out there. I've found a brilliant wife who I know I'm going to spend the rest of my life with. But if we hadn't met (by chance), then I'd have found someone else - and hopefully they'd have been as compatible and wonderful. But that's different to fate.
OMG dont let your missus see that, mine would go mental if i said there was someone just as perfect for me out there that wasnt her!
And to answer original q no i dont believe it fate. I find the trouble with it is it gives too many people excuses to give up!.
i.e if they fail then they say 'oh well it wasnt me to be' but my attitude is never say die and have another go and another go until you do get it. It makes you such a stronger person, in a fight, in your career and just in general day to day life.
You have to have that dog in you and i believe fate takes that out of a person.
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Re: Do you believe in fate?
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April 22, 2007, 02:47:38 AM »
No one person is any luckier or unluckier than anyone else. Different people
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luckier/unluckier than others at different times (however you choose to judge luck) but that has no bearing on future events.
How someone conducts themselves will generally have an impact on what happens to them in the future. E.g. You would expect that a generous, altruistic person would generally be more likely to experience favourable situations because other people would be more keen to present them with those situations rather than offer opportunities to a less kind and caring person. Likewise, a smart, dedicated, hard-working person is going to give himself the best opportunity to, say, build a successful business. It wouldn't be fate though. There is no such thing as fate per se.
A lottery winner has simply been very lucky.
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April 22, 2007, 03:12:24 AM »
I don't subscribe to it personally, but occasionaly use it as an excuse for ungentlemanlike bodily functions.
It happened for a reason
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April 22, 2007, 07:56:37 AM »
OK, I know what I think, I just don't know how to put it into words.
As far as i can see, it doesn't matter if what we choose to call fate exists or not. Something is going to happen. Call it fate, call it sloob, call it nothing, something is going to happen, even if that something is nothing.
It's the same as reincarnation. It doesn't matter wheather it exists or not. When someone dies, a baby, or a cat, or a goldfish will be born somewhere. It doesn't matter if you call it reincarnation or not, the person who died and the newborn have no knowledge of each other anyway.
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