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« on: October 06, 2005, 03:32:12 PM »

$15/$30 cash game (6 handed table). You sat with $2k, and are now upto $5.5k

You're in the sb, with KK, one fella raises to $90 (he had $5k) from 1st position, one call (he's on tilt and has reloaded for another $3k), and you raise it upto $320, they both call.

Flop: ,7h,5d

You bet $1k, and they both call.

Turn two spades.

What do u do here, considering there is $4k in the pot on the turn, and u have $4k left, what do u bet? And what do u put your opponents on?
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2005, 03:34:21 PM »

A Set?
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2005, 03:35:35 PM »

A Set?

Do you automatically have to assume this and dump the KK? or Can you bet and see where you are? Any bet here is going to look weak apart from an all in.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2005, 03:38:02 PM »

I think u would be re-raised if either had a set, u may be looking at TT or QQ but most likely AJ & AK.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2005, 03:39:38 PM »

I think u would be re-raised if either had a set, u may be looking at TT or QQ but most likely AJ & AK.

I certainly think that the 2nd player would have raised with a set after a flat call.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2005, 03:39:53 PM »

I think I put my middle opponent on AJ,KJ. though if he's tilting it may not be as good as that. I think I'm beating him

First position opponent?  Worst case, Aces. We aren't told anything about him, could just as easily be AK,AQ,AJ., or any pair, hopefully not JJ

A set OF 7 or 5's, maybe, but you are paying that off with KK. The only way I see a set being slow played is position 1 with JJ

I think I'd bet a good amount here

$2k,$2.5k? if you get re-raised all in then you can dump or go with it...gut feel type call. Bear in mind that your bet will look weak, so you might have to be prepared to call allin as good uns will try to push you off

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2005, 03:40:03 PM »

So you think the choice is to crap or bust then? You know who you are up against are they "at it" or solid. What about the option of calling it down? Puting a Grand in doesn't seem all that weak to me.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2005, 03:43:22 PM »

Grab your balls and go all-in! thumbs up Make it look like you hit the set.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2005, 03:44:34 PM »

Grab your balls and go all-in! thumbs up

That way you'll still have something to play with after the hand  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2005, 03:45:44 PM »

So you think the choice is to crap or bust then? You know who you are up against are they "at it" or solid. What about the option of calling it down? Puting a Grand in doesn't seem all that weak to me.

$1k into $4k, seems fairly weak to me. Both of the players are well established online pro's on ladbrokes.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2005, 03:46:48 PM »

So you think the choice is to crap or bust then? You know who you are up against are they "at it" or solid. What about the option of calling it down? Puting a Grand in doesn't seem all that weak to me.

the guys have $5k plus in front of them and one has reloaded for $3k+...putting $1k in looks weak


I don't think I'd go all in, I want to give myself options after my oppo has responded to my turn bet, it's not as if they are drawing to anything is it...they either have top pair with something or a set or similar made hand
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2005, 04:19:32 PM »

I'm with Mr End here. Why cant you bet 2k and have the option of saving yourself 2 more if you are reraised?

I think you are only worried about 1 caller. IF he has AA or JJ, it's well played and he's going to get paid off that 2k. Otherwise it's yours. He probably has AJ and is waiting to see if you slow down.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2005, 04:22:08 PM »

Check, if 1 of them bets raise all in, if 1 bets and other raises, u release. If they both check, say 'oops' when the A drops.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2005, 12:23:44 AM »

I grabbed my balls and moved all in. Just because I couldnt figure out a bet where I can look strong, but fold to a raise really.

Anyway they both called!

One with 77 (the first caller), the other with 46s (straigfht draw)

the $15k pot went to the set of 7's Cry
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2005, 12:26:49 AM »

tough luck.....liked my bet $2k and then when he re-raises go on your gut feel....
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