Which version of Tournament Hold 'em do you prefer?

[jbsc7769]

The review of the Omaha Paris tourny got me thinking.
I don't think it is a coincidence that TV coverage of Hold 'em is killing Omaha. Thing is, most TV coverage of Hold 'em is No Limit yet a lot casino's seem to play Pot Limit in their weekly tournaments, so, will this start to die out?
The "Big Money" in the game is No Limit so surely this is the way forward....or is it?

[Ironside]

your question and poll are flawed

1st you dont make the difference between cash and tourny
2nd most big tournys in the UK are allready NLHE and PLHE makes up the bulk of the small weekly games


PLHE and NLHE are very similair and because of this there will be no change from the present NLHE for the big festivals and PLHE for weekly games

cash games need to take a lead from the USA and become limit at low levels then people with limited funds know they can play without busting out in 1 hand

[jbsc7769]

Hi, sorry, thought people would realise I meant TOURNAMENT PLAY as i said about TV and the Paris tournament. obviously not!
Yes, agreed, cash should be limit as US

[Ironside]

question is still flawed as most big holdem events in the uk are NLHE
the small 10 and 20 weekly events are PLHE but because of structures
are played as NLHE unless there has been a case of rebuy madness

[jbsc7769]

Which is why i said "weekly tournaments".
Jeez, all i wondered was whether people preferred pot limit or no limit, wish i hadn't asked. The big events happen infrequently, the weekly events happen almost everyday. This is the discussion point. If NL is the way forward, should rebuys be turned in freezeouts and the buyins changed to say 50? That would give a very healthy pize fund every week.

[Ironside]

as was pointed out to me when i first started playing live, rebuys are the only way to make these weekly events

because joe bloggs normally travels an hour to get to casino and an hour home afterwards he isnt going to go to casino
if he is going to have to go home after 5 minutes because he was badly outdrawn

personally i would prefer to play a small buy in freezeout but the number of players playing in these would fall and the profitablity is also reduced as people looking to make profit from the weekly events rely on maniac A making on average 3 rebuys for every 1 of his

[jbsc7769]

I will conceed you make a few very good points there ironside BUT i think we digress. All i wanted to know is which version you prefer!!! 
As in, a straighjt choice. Lets imagine, a 100 freezout tourney. PL or NL...in fact i really have gone past the point of caring..... 

[elblondie]

Personally I prefer Omaha and 7 Card because there is more to think about. I consider these more skillfull

It is generally considered that PLH is more skillfull than NLH - this is definately Devilfish's view - he even suggested to Matt Savage that the WSOP should be Pot Limit. Personally I don't like PLH just because the flow of the game is constantly disrupted with counting the pot

So in summary , the least skillfull of all is NLH... but that is the future of the game undoubtably

[jbsc7769]

That would explain why I like it so much then, who needs skill, lol!!
I think Omaha is undoubtably a more intricate game and maybe the TV producers out there do not have enough faith in TV audiences understanding it. Hold 'em is easy on the eyes and possibly easier to follow whilst talking to your friends and having a beer watching TV.
That said, it is great to see so many people watching TV and it is good for the growth of the game. I got one hell of a buzz playing at the Bellagio in a satellite for the main event in December, people standing around even watching those!
Maybe as all these people come into the game, they will eventually spread out into other variants. I started playing poker just over a year ago and about two weeks ago played Stud for the first time....and thoroughly enjoyed it. Omaha a little longer. I tend to play Omaha for enjoyment, then go back to NLHE to get my bank roll up a little so I can lose my money at Omaha again!!

[Phil]

It is generally considered that PLH is more skillfull than NLH

I have to admit, I found that quite surprising. I would have thought that NLH would be considered the more skillful game as none of the betting is limited (obviously) so bet size and stack size become so much more important, thus adding an extra dimension to the game. PLH seems to be restriced as the only moves seem to be fold, call or pot raise. To me that seems to make things a little less skillful as that raise (especially pre-flop) becomes so predictable and doesn't give the better as much scope to vary his bets throughout the game - unlike NLH of course.

[Ironside]

I will conceed you make a few very good points there ironside BUT i think we digress. All i wanted to know is which version you prefer!!!
As in, a straighjt choice. Lets imagine, a 100 freezout tourney. PL or NL...in fact i really have gone past the point of caring.....

the poll question is which would you rather see played in uk casinos

i would rather see PLH rebuys played in the uk casino weekly games to keep the number of people intrested and coming back

i would rather play PLO freezeout but as there aren't any in the uk i guess i will have to wait till i get a passport