WALTERS RANGERS, PHENOMENAL TURNAROUND

[Ironside]

i wouldn't expect old firm to manage UEFA in premiership, let alone top 4. no offence meant but dispite some gutsy cup performances in europe, over a whole season I couldn't see either CONSISTANTLY beating premiership sides.

if the old firm was to get into the premiership they would have and extra 30million to invest a season with old firm revenue they would be top 6 EVERY season with atleast 1 of them making top 4 every season

without the russians money chelsea couldnt compete with them
arsenal arent even in the same league in revenue
man U and to some extent liverpool are the only ones that could compete off the field

ok current squads celtic and rangers couldn't compete for a whole season but they would be able to with the extra tv and prize money

and thats from a man who dislikes the old firm as much as he dislikes the EPL

[damon]

 

  to a certain extent ( defo top 4 guaranteed)

[Teacake]

i wouldn't expect old firm to manage UEFA in premiership, let alone top 4. no offence meant but dispite some gutsy cup performances in europe, over a whole season I couldn't see either CONSISTANTLY beating premiership sides.

if the old firm was to get into the premiership they would have and extra 30million to invest a season with old firm revenue they would be top 6 EVERY season with atleast 1 of them making top 4 every season

without the russians money chelsea couldnt compete with them
arsenal arent even in the same league in revenue
man U and to some extent liverpool are the only ones that could compete off the field

ok current squads celtic and rangers couldn't compete for a whole season but they would be able to with the extra tv and prize money

This is what most English fans fail to consider when they talk about Celtic or Rangers struggling in the Sky league. We wouldn't be playing with the current squad as we would attract the players who would like to play for Celtic but don't want to play in the SPHell. I also don't think they realise how little we make from TV. Every penny Celtic bring in is earned (merchandise, ticket sales etc) we do not get a 30 million quid kitty from Sky every season.

[Rod Paradise]

only posted because damon seems to be suggesting that celtic and rangers would stomp all over the premiership and that seemed a little silly to me

Well as Celtic beat Man U over 2 legs and played better against Milan I'd suggest you're talking mince, how many times must we show ourselves as a match for your clubs in competitive games before you get the "wee league relegation fodder" arrogance out of your heads?

Man U
Liverpool
Blackburn

Win the EPL, not immediately, 3-4 years of the money your mob get - challenge the Euro places, within 1-2 seasons.

I'd go back to  

[damon]

We probably have more right to be in the Premiership than Arsenal, having more English players than they have.

English clubs would also make more money with the Old Firm in the Premiership...think how much better it would be. A decent rivalry, a real derby instead of Liverpool-Man Utd or Chelsea-Liverpool which are not derbies. The tabloids would also love it with every game being a Battle of Britain.

Problem is the English clubs feel threatened by the Old Firm.

I reckon a start in the Championship  adding 2 more teams,so not to do any League 1 promotions out of a place.

[damon]

saying that, if the Old Firm were allowed into the Premiership, most English teams would have to have their stadiums made a hell of alot bigger than they are at present.

Lot of supporters up here who like to travel and there are only 2 or 3 teams who could accomodate us.

[Royal Flush]

Given the chance to play in the Premiership, Rangers and Celtic would probably spend the first year or two playing for European places...after that though they would be competing for the Championship evey year and why not?

Man Utd would always be a contender, apart from them,there are no bigger in teams in England than the Old Firm.

There's even more records for ye, Scottish clubs have a great record against English clubs

lol

[damon]

If Chelsea, Arsenal, and the likes were in the Scots Premier getting the same money as the Old Firm get they would probably struggle to get a UEFA place... and I am no joking

[Rod Paradise]

If Chelsea, Arsenal, and the likes were in the Scots Premier getting the same money as the Old Firm get they would probably struggle to get a UEFA place... and I am no joking

Dunno - but they'd be struggling not to go out of business at the drop in TV money.  Celtic/Rangers average ticket price about £25, TV money about £2m yet still in the top 20 or thereabouts for turnover in Europe. Give us the £20m the bottom English teams get we'd both be near enough top 10.

[damon]

Exactly!

[fergus8]

i said it b4, id take the conference over the spl,
i hate domestic football, bar the close title race seasons which are about 1 every 3 seasons

[mickyp]

English clubs think there all big time charlies.A part from manu the old firm with sky money would hold there own.Im a blue nose but celtic would do just as well as us

[johnbhoy76]

i wouldn't expect old firm to manage UEFA in premiership, let alone top 4. no offence meant but dispite some gutsy cup performances in europe, over a whole season I couldn't see either CONSISTANTLY beating premiership sides.

If Reading can do it then I'd fancy Celtic's chances of doing it.

Celtic would get £30 million in TV money before kicking a ball

Revenue from Shirt sponsors, corporate hospitality, multimedia would treble overnight.

Celtic are already a massive club with worldwide support if we actually had the worldwide exposure that playing in the Premiership would bring then we'd go supersonic.

The problem we have just now is that Celtic over the last few years have lost players such as...

Viduka - Leeds
Van Hooijdonk - Forest
Di Canio - Sheff Wed
Petrov - Aston Villa

None of those players would have left Celtic if Celtic could offer those players Premiership football.  They all stated their reason for leaving was to play in the premiership

Celtic would not only get a financial boost from playing in the Premiership but we'd be able to attract and retain a better quality of player.

[Royal Flush]

Seeing as the Old Firm make loads anyway, such a high turnover, what difference would 30m make?

[johnbhoy76]

Seeing as the Old Firm make loads anyway, such a high turnover, what difference would 30m make?

Where Celtic are concerned £30 million is a conservative estimate. It would be £30 million from SKY alone. Celtic PLC already have planning permission in place to extend the stadium to 80,000. They renew this planning permission every year just incase we ever get to the Premiership/European league. 20,000 extra season tickets at £400 a pop is another £8 million

We'll probably loose Artur Boruc this summer. That wouldn't happen if we played in the EPL. It's not just about the money