QQ - SnG turbo - mid stages.

[temp0r]

both players have been rather semi-loose donks with no clue how to play profitably in SnGs. you know the sort. but anyway i thought this was rather marginal so what does everyone think to it? push or fold?

PokerStars Game #9817190519: Tournament #49816528, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/08 - 21:05:26 (ET)
Table '49816528 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: temp0r2k (1400 in chips)
Seat 2: paidover95 (1875 in chips)
Seat 3: Qu4nGs7a (835 in chips)
Seat 4: BadBeatPro (2065 in chips)
Seat 5: Firaren (2810 in chips)
Seat 7: jackofheartz (1920 in chips)
Seat 8: sexymoma2 (1295 in chips)
Seat 9: farvegnugen (1300 in chips)
Qu4nGs7a: posts small blind 75
BadBeatPro: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to temp0r2k [ ]
Firaren: folds
jackofheartz: raises 300 to 450
sexymoma2: raises 845 to 1295 and is all-in
farvegnugen: folds
temp0r2k: .....?

[boldie]

QQ is one of those dangerous hands that is tricky to lay down in any tourney especially a small stakes STT.
In a 16$ STT I would always call with this.

You can expect to see action like this before you when someone has a big ace and the other has pocket Jacks (or lower) and in a 16$ STT I wouldn't fold this.
In a big MTT you could easily find a fold here.
You could even find yourself up against AJ and AK, which is not too bad a situation to be in as that only leaves 2 aces. One of them (most likely the first raiser) could ofcourse have KK or AA but in this tourney you have to take that risk I thin.

[AdamM]

when I see QQ and SnG turbo then my answer will almost always be 'all in' regardless of the rest of the info. the standard of play and hand selection of your opponents makes is virtually impossible to pass. Boldie is right, in a MTT there will be times putting QQ down is relatively easy, but if it's ever right in a turbo SnG I've yet to see it.

[Longy]

Insta call, these two would to be nits, to be sure about folding this.

There are situations when folding qq is correct in turbo sng's this ain't one of them.

[KingPoker]

Jackofheartz has only raised to 450 at this point, with sexymoma reraising all in for 800 more, with you to act after and to push yourself which would make it another 1000 for jackofheartz to call IMO he is the only one with a decision (he is getting around 2.5 to 1 to call with a reraise all in and a call after his initial standard 3xBB raise) to make in this hand and unless he has KK>AA he is the one who should be folding not you!

What did jackofheartz do and have if he played??

[thetank]

when I see QQ and SnG turbo then my answer will almost always be 'all in' regardless of the rest of the info. the standard of play and hand selection of your opponents makes is virtually impossible to pass. Boldie is right, in a MTT there will be times putting QQ down is relatively easy, but if it's ever right in a turbo SnG I've yet to see it.

It's not that great a hand lvls 1 and 2 to this sort of action, and can be easily layed down.

here, you have to pump all your chips in.

[AlexMartin]

Cant release here. Maybe in level 1 of the 4 diamond championship or a cash game @ Luton but im not folding queens here.

[temp0r]

no one said fold. hurrah!

PokerStars Game #9817190519: Tournament #49816528, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/08 - 21:05:26 (ET)
Table '49816528 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: temp0r2k (1400 in chips)
Seat 2: paidover95 (1875 in chips)
Seat 3: Qu4nGs7a (835 in chips)
Seat 4: BadBeatPro (2065 in chips)
Seat 5: Firaren (2810 in chips)
Seat 7: jackofheartz (1920 in chips)
Seat 8: sexymoma2 (1295 in chips)
Seat 9: farvegnugen (1300 in chips)
Qu4nGs7a: posts small blind 75
BadBeatPro: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to temp0r2k [ ]
Firaren: folds
jackofheartz: raises 300 to 450
sexymoma2: raises 845 to 1295 and is all-in
farvegnugen: folds
temp0r2k: raises 105 to 1400 and is all-in
paidover95: folds
Qu4nGs7a: folds
BadBeatPro: folds
jackofheartz: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
sexymoma2 said, "nh"
*** TURN *** [ ] []
sexymoma2 said, "lol"
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sexymoma2: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
temp0r2k: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
sexymoma2 collected 1633 from pot
temp0r2k collected 1632 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3265 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: temp0r2k showed [ ] and won (1632) with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: paidover95 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Qu4nGs7a (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: BadBeatPro (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Firaren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jackofheartz folded before Flop
Seat 8: sexymoma2 showed [ ] and won (1633) with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: farvegnugen folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Dewi_cool]

fold