Missing Madeleine

[lazaroonie]

The most important message to come from this scenario is: just how full of BS are the british media.
Followed by: just how scared you would be to get on the wrong side of the portuguese police.

I got on the wrong side of the portuguese police a few years back - for a parking ticket !! I was parked outside a row of shops/cafes and we went in somewhere for breakfast. There were cars parked everywhere. of course by the time we came out, there were no cars , except for a cop car. I got in the car, ready to drive away, and the guy was at the window in a flash, basically telling me what a bad boy I was, and that there was no parking allowed in this area.

Things got interesting when he wanted to see "my papers" - the rental agreement I had was for a different car, since I was due to be changing it that day. also, I didnt have my license or passport with me. At this point he said I would need to go to the police station. I burst out laughing at him - "for a fkin parking ticket ?? - no chance". He was quite insistent, but I held firm - I told him I would go to my hotel and get my "papers" - and the followed me all the way. At my hotel room, he then said I had to pay a fine of around £150 for the parking ticket and not carrying my documents with me (apparantly a serious offence). I said ok, if he just wanted to follow me to reception, I would get the hotel manager to witness the transaction and he could also issue me with a receipt.

This guys face was almost creased up with rage - it was obvious he was wanting a payoff, but there was no way in the world he was going to get it. Mysteriously by the time we got reception, the fine had fallen to about £15 for a parking infringement.......

To think I am going back there in a couple of weeks !

[AndrewT]

Thought it was also rather strange that noone seems to think it's a nogo to use the money from the "Maddie fund" to hire expensive lawyers to fight the MCCans extradition charges should it ever come to that If I had donated to it (which I quite obviously didn't (I'll donate my money directly to a charity that can do some good and not to some hyped up news story fund), I also didn't buy one of them armbands (as..well I'm not a girl) it would somehow seem inappropriate to me that the money would be used to stage a defense of the parents.

The 'Maddie Fund' is not a registered charity so they can do whatever they want with it.

The last time I saw a figure raised it was over a million pounds.

1.What are the objects of Madeleine’s Fund?

Madeleine’s fund is a non-charitable not-for-profit company, which has been established to help find Madeleine McCann, to support her family, and to bring her abductors to justice.  Any surplus funds will be used to help families and missing children in the United Kingdom, Portugal and elsewhere in similar circumstances.

The full objects of the Fund are:

    *      To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
    *      To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
    *      To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.

Which, technically, means the McCanns could spend it on anything they wanted.

[Zebediah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=481168&in_page_id=1811

Bloody hell! Thats where Eric Cantona got to.

[TheChipPrince]

This threads way to serious for me, poker anyone?

[ifm]

Ps KateMccann, I definetly wouldn't..she looks like a skinny bloodhound for crying out loud. She should really take a bit more care of herself, what they don't sell Oil of Olay or some sort of anti wrinkle cream in Portugal?

Not wished to post on this thread but after reading this post it made me feel sick. I do not know the truth of what went on over there and not one of us on here do either, including you Boldie. I never like to speculate or get involved in something that I have no hard evidence on.I hope to goodness these parents are totaly innocent and whomever is proven guilty gets all that they deserve,  but that is not for me to judge.
That must be one of the sickest posts I have read, the woman must is going through shear hell for Gods sake, , she really won't give a flying fk what she looks like. SICK MAN.

I think the carboot references were sicker but each to their own. (i don't mind sick jokes btw)

[lazaroonie]

I never like to speculate or get involved in something that I have no hard evidence on.I hope to goodness these parents are totaly innocent and whomever is proven guilty gets all that they deserve,  but that is not for me to judge.

Maureen,

not wanting to split hairs , but why do you hope that the parents are innocent ? Is it not enough to say that you hope that the perputrators of this crime get all they deserve ?

I get the impression that there are two distinct sides in this matter now - the people who are taking great delight in the delicious possibility that the mccanns maybe guilty , and the other side,who seem completely unwilling to believe that they could possibly be responsible for this in some way.

[The_nun]

I haven't bothered to read all the thread incase i came across silly comments so do not know what you refer to and am not going to go back to see either, the only reason i saw this was because it was on the tops post as i logged in this am.

[The_nun]

Laz,

Hope that the parents are innocent?..why, because if not , the best part of a nation has felt sickened for these two people, has grieved with them and felt some of the pain they must be feeling  and still will do for Maddie regardless of who is guilty. Like i said whoever did do it deserves to rot in hell but lets wait until we get it right before childish  comments  are strewn around ( what is usually a close mature forum), about a terrible loss of a child aye.
Everyone is entitled to thier opinions but i just think that when i read boldies, that was not an opinion just a heartless,  stupid,  immature comment relating to a death of an innocent child.

[fearisthekey]

Liked this piece from Guardian Online:
"How will this story end? That's what makes it so grimly compelling: none of us knows. Until we do, basic justice demands that we presume the McCanns are wholly innocent. Common decency demands the same. For if they are eventually found guilty, there will be plenty of time for condemnation. But if they are innocent, to presume otherwise is to commit a second crime against people who have already suffered enough."

[Zebediah]

Liked this piece from Guardian Online:
"How will this story end? That's what makes it so grimly compelling: none of us knows. Until we do, basic justice demands that we presume the McCanns are wholly innocent. Common decency demands the same. For if they are eventually found guilty, there will be plenty of time for condemnation. But if they are innocent, to presume otherwise is to commit a second crime against people who have already suffered enough."

Damn right

[AdamM]

I haven't bothered to read all the thread incase i came across silly comments so do not know what you refer to and am not going to go back to see either, the only reason i saw this was because it was on the tops post as i logged in this am.

to be fair Maureen, you are taking Boldies post as an isolated comment out of context. before that there's been a number of posts seeking to lighten the tone / distract / stir / whatever.  Boldies post does look a bit tasteless if it read on its own but it wasn't him that took the thread in that direction.

[The_nun]

Well we arn't sheep, we don't have to follow others, unless  that is what floats your boat. To be fair.... So to make light of a childs death or any death for that matter you think it is right to make childish comments relating to it, just to lighten up the atmo..hmmm think not. Case closed for me.

[MPOWER]

Well Just read this thread.

IMHO The Mccanns are Victims of the Portuguese government and police.  They just wanted them out of the country.

Why should they care so much for a foregin national.

It's just a shame all the headlines  are about the parents rather than trying to find Madaline.

I don't think the parents are guilty of any form of neglect. The problem was someone out
there wanted to take a child.

And finally to make personal comments about the Mother is quite disgusting.

Regards

M


   

 

[TheChipPrince]

I think we all have a 'joke threshold' where we have a line behind which things are just not funny. Some people cannot be offended by anything, whereas others take offence at everything... I dont think you can win when you try and point a thread like this in a 'joke direction', someone will always be a bit disappointed...

It doesnt offend me by the way, this is just a general comment...

[Rod Paradise]

I don't think the parents are guilty of any form of neglect. The problem was someone out
there wanted to take a child.

I completely disagree & if Madeline had been the child of a single mother from a city estate the clamour for the twins to be taken into care would have been deafening.