Big Brother 8

[yellowmagic]

I note that the Commission for Racial Equality have welcomed Channel 4's stance - responsible broadcasting indeed.

[Horneris]

Ridicolous over-reaction by .

[scotty2hatty]

I agree it is an over-reaction but it was always going to happen.  They were always going to pounce on the first remark that is even borderline racism and act accordingly so as to try to show that they are the good guys now.

[Rooky9]

I blame Rap and hip-hop culture.

[AdamM]

has to be zero tollerance on her choice of words.
she may not have meant it maliciously but she had to go.


I work with a bunch of guys who use that sort of language all day. Strange that otherwise decent blokes can use such unpleasant language. Its wierd in this day and age to be the only person in a room that finds words like nigger and paki distasteful. I think its good that / Endemol have been strict on it. they're sending a message that it's not acceptable in any context.

[Rooky9]

has to be zero tollerance on her choice of words.
she may not have meant it maliciously but she had to go.


I work with a bunch of guys who use that sort of language all day. Strange that otherwise decent blokes can use such unpleasant language. Its wierd in this day and age to be the only person in a room that finds words like nigger and paki distasteful. I think its good that / Endemol have been strict on it. they're sending a message that it's not acceptable in any context.

Where's the line though. Ni**** is a commonly used word in many circles, particularly african american, if they use it to each other then it is okay? But someone outside that ethnic origin it is not?.

For me racism is all about context rather than content. I havent seen the clip so I'm not saying that it was/wasn't.

[AdamM]

I disagree. content AND context for me

the language used in black music is a different issue and definitely something that needs tackling but those words are in common daily usage and that can't be acceptable anynore surely?

[Claw75]

has to be zero tollerance on her choice of words.
she may not have meant it maliciously but she had to go.


I work with a bunch of guys who use that sort of language all day. Strange that otherwise decent blokes can use such unpleasant language. Its wierd in this day and age to be the only person in a room that finds words like nigger and paki distasteful. I think its good that / Endemol have been strict on it. they're sending a message that it's not acceptable in any context.

Where's the line though. Ni**** is a commonly used word in many circles, particularly african american, if they use it to each other then it is okay? But someone outside that ethnic origin it is not?.

is it the case that it is acceptable for all african americans to use that word with any other african american though?  I very much doubt it.  I presume it's like many derogatory terms people will use among their friends, but not outside their social circle.

One might, for example, refer to a friend in jest as a 'fat c***', but it still doesn't make it an acceptable thing to say to an acquaintance or on a TV show.

[AdamM]

One might, for example, refer to a friend in jest as a 'fat c***', but it still doesn't make it an acceptable thing to say to an acquaintance or on a TV show.

To be fair I don't think they'd have slung her out for that but it's not quite the same thing either. a one on one personal insults is one thing but racially abusive language has hundreds of years of weight to it that make it a bigger issue I think. If Charlie had used the same language my guess is it would have resulted in her going too.

[Ironside]

i think its all about context and not content

if myself and a friend were playing WC basketball and we called each other cripples it would be ok but if going down the street someone tries to belittle me by calling me a cripple then its not ok

many people use th N word in the context i use the crippled word and no offence is meant or taken but if the N word is used to belittle someone then it becomes offensive

i think emily fell into a slight trap she is 18  from a posh background and watches MTV and was trying to fit in and thought that the use of the word was apropraite IMHO it wasnt and the company she was in told her (which as mature adults people need to do more) rather that kicking her out it should of been used as an example of context v content in how the 2 other girls involved handled the situation

[The_nun]

I am not really into this but would it not be a good idea to let Paris H serve the remainder of her time here, surly that must be equal to prison..

[Rooky9]

I am not really into this but would it not be a good idea to let Paris H serve the remainder of her time here, surly that must be equal to prison..

Brilliant!

[Claw75]

One might, for example, refer to a friend in jest as a 'fat c***', but it still doesn't make it an acceptable thing to say to an acquaintance or on a TV show.

To be fair I don't think they'd have slung her out for that but it's not quite the same thing either. a one on one personal insults is one thing but racially abusive language has hundreds of years of weight to it that make it a bigger issue I think. If Charlie had used the same language my guess is it would have resulted in her going too.

I agree. Was just trying to find an analogy to illustrate why I don't believe the word 'nigger' is generally acceptable among african americans.  Today is not the first time I've heard people saying "it's ok for (a particular group) to use (a particular word) among themselves, so why are they offended when people from outside the group use it?" I don't think it's that black and white, so to speak.

[tantrum]

Claw and Ironside are right.

[FlyingPig]

i think its all about context and not content

if myself and a friend were playing WC basketball and we called each other cripples it would be ok but if going down the street someone tries to belittle me by calling me a cripple then its not ok

many people use th N word in the context i use the crippled word and no offence is meant or taken but if the N word is used to belittle someone then it becomes offensive

i think emily fell into a slight trap she is 18  from a posh background and watches MTV and was trying to fit in and thought that the use of the word was apropraite IMHO it wasnt and the company she was in told her (which as mature adults people need to do more) rather that kicking her out it should of been used as an example of context v content in how the 2 other girls involved handled the situation

Well said sir!!!