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another O/T - spelling
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October 11, 2005, 12:31:12 PM »
The recent run of spelling programmes on the BBC irritates me, I was wondering if I was alone. I believe spelling and the English language is dynamic and should be allowed to evolve. I studied English at college and whether it was Shakespear, Chaucer or whatever, a large portion of the words were spelt differently. Our language is obviously made up af many different old languages and many of the 'rule' we have come from foriegn or even dead languages. Do we need C and K? Do we need Silent letters? should we be spelling phoneticaly. At the start of this post I had intended to try very hard on spelling correctly but decided harf way thu to spell in a way that makes moor sens. It wood take sum getting used to for most of us but spelling this way works fine. we dont actually need to spell wood and would differently because context takes care of it for us. wood you like a coffee isn't confusing.
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goes to show spellings not as important as many wood say
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Quote from: AdamM on October 11, 2005, 12:31:12 PM
The recent run of spelling programmes on the BBC irritates me, I was wondering if I was alone. I believe spelling and the English language is dynamic and should be allowed to evolve. I studied English at college and whether it was Shakespear,
^^^^^How's it spelt???
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October 11, 2005, 12:39:59 PM »
peoples urge to correct others spelling. pet hate of mine. I just don't think it matters. also people who are fasists about where apostrophies should go. I know what the rules are, I just think it's unnecessary.
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October 11, 2005, 12:42:18 PM »
Every single word we use today is the product of evolution, from a different language, from a bastardising of Middle English, or from it's use int he vernacular - so language does evolve, as far as I am concerned
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thats interesting
Its not the spelling as such that bothers me, its the abbreviated text message style that seems to be adopeded these days, its just lazy. things like ure for you're for example.
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Quote from: AdamM on October 11, 2005, 12:39:59 PM
peoples urge to correct others spelling. pet hate of mine. I just don't think it matters. also people who are fasists about where apostrophies should go. I know what the rules are, I just think it's unnecessary.
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pet hate of mine. I just don't think it matters.
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lso people who are
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about where apostrophies should go. I know what the rules are, I just think it's unnecessary.
I agree
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I find it difficult to read, but that's because I'm already conditioned to worry about spelling.
luv instead of love makes sense.
u instead of you
etc
Robert, you love to press peoples' buttons don't you
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October 11, 2005, 12:53:31 PM »
Hey EdamM, how do you think Snopsy/Snoppy/Ponsy feels?
I'm a stickler, so I am staying out of this thread
can't stand poor and lazy spelling....."I'm wearing a pear of trousers", "I went to there house" that sort of thing
I fully accept that my view is anachronistic and diametrically opposed to yours Edam!
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It is a sad fact that I read formal statements day in and day out and the grammar and spelling of the makers is poor, I have had to put it down to our education system and a lack of pride in one's output.
My spelling is sometimes lacking, I am not sure what causes it but at least I make the effort.
Don't mistake poor work for evolution.
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Now this is what I was trying to say, only Robert said it more eloquently
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I hate poor spelling, if you didn't pay attention at school then you deserve abuse for it!!
The worse thing for me though is the american influence on spelling and pronunciation, lieutenant is a great example of the latter, i go nuts at my kids when they get it wrong, an example of the former is realize or patronize.......it's spelt with an 'S' FFS.
Typo's are one thing i don't mind though.
Shortening words i dont mind i.e. tho for though etc.
My kids knew thier alphabet before they entered nursery school and each (3 of 'em) were the only ones in their respective classes who did.
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October 11, 2005, 01:06:20 PM »
My vocabulary is pretty good and I like to think of myself as being fairly intelligent but I don't spell well. It's not lazy, I just don't 'see' it right. I often shy away from using long words in post, not because I don't know the meaning but because I can't spell them. Increasingly good spelling is a sign of good education rather than intelligence. Spelling, grammer and punctuation can often be used as an intellectual weapon against less well educated but equally intelligent people.
The examples of small words yu give are irritating to me too, but only because they're so easy.
I would however suggest that we don't need
Pair/pear
there/their/they're
would'wood
whether/weather
a single spelling to make the sound and context would work fine
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Quote from: ifm on October 11, 2005, 01:01:27 PM
I hate poor spelling, if you didn't pay attention at school then you deserve abuse for it!!
The worse thing for me though is the american influence on spelling and pronunciation, lieutenant is a great example of the latter, i go nuts at my kids when they get it wrong, an example of the former is realize or patronize.......it's spelt with an 'S' FFS.
Typo's are one thing i don't mind though.
Shortening words i dont mind i.e. tho for though etc.
My kids knew thier alphabet before they entered nursery school and each (3 of 'em) were the only ones in their respective classes who did.
Ian
thier??!?!?!
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Quote from: ifm on October 11, 2005, 01:01:27 PM
My kids knew
thier
alphabet before they entered nursery school and each (3 of 'em) were the only ones in their respective classes who did.
Ian
grrr, a pet hate of mine: recieve, thier etc etc
I know ifm that your was a typo, only joking!!!
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October 11, 2005, 01:09:23 PM »
there are spelling mistakes in your post Ian and no-one 'deserves abuse' for anything.
a child reaction to traditional education isn't always straight forward and a kid that doesn'tlearn well in a strict enviroment isn't necessarily naughty/stupid/lazy
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