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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2007, 06:24:02 PM »

If you are going to select a player then ask him to do something he's not comfortable with, then why select him?
As for players required to perform a different role to club football.....
Ronaldinho, Maradona, Gascoigne, Lineker, Rush, Hurst, Pele .......
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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2007, 06:26:40 PM »

Mourinho for England? no thanks

If Lampard, or any other player can't motivate and reassure himself in an England shirt then he shouldn't be wearing it. McLaren isn't going to build a team around Lampard, being sure to only ask him to do what he's comfortable doing. Not sure exactly how McLaren is stiffling Lampard but International football USUALLY requires players to perform a different role to their club football.


you'd rather have a manager like mclaren running the national team than a manager like mourinho?

 
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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2007, 06:27:45 PM »

If you are going to select a player then ask him to do something he's not comfortable with, then why select him?
As for players required to perform a different role to club football.....
Ronaldinho, Maradona, Gascoigne, Lineker, Rush, Hurst, Pele .......


to be fair lampards nowhere near the class of those you mentioned
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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2007, 06:31:41 PM »

I agree, was just making a point though. :-)
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« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2007, 06:40:19 PM »

It's OK, Crouch is playing tonight.  So the boo-boys can target him instead. 

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« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2007, 06:43:12 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2007, 06:48:10 PM »

boooooo

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« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2007, 06:55:45 PM »



you'd rather have a manager like mclaren running the national team than a manager like mourinho?

 
Not 'like,' I'd specifically rather have McLaren than Mourinho.

is a post like yours not flaming?

can we not have a conversation without ridiculing someones opinion if it differs to yours?
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« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2007, 06:58:10 PM »



you'd rather have a manager like mclaren running the national team than a manager like mourinho?

 
Not 'like,' I'd specifically rather have McLaren than Mourinho.

is a post like yours not flaming?

can we not have a conversation without ridiculing someones opinion if it differs to yours?

but yours is ridicule-able
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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2007, 07:12:02 PM »

Great debate.

I was a boo boy for Barnes, If I remember rightly I was booing as he stepped up to take the free kick he scored against Holland in 93.  I booed because I thought he was undeserving of his England place, was living on the goal he scored in Brazil and was keeping players out of the team more deserving of that place.  That was my right as I see it.  I payed the price of the ticket, I am allowed to boo, I was young, I cared, so I booed.

I feel the same about Lampard, would I boo today - No.  Nobody cares if I boo in my living room. As it stands I wouldn't pay to see England.  So as I see it I don't have the right to boo.  For those that do pay to go tonight, let them boo if they want, its their cash.  

Also I feel its unfair to compare the booing and grief some have had in the past with what Beckham went through.  I am no lover of Beckham, and I think what he did in the heat of the moment was idiotic and immature, but completely underserving of what followed.  Having said that I can't think of much in life that was deserving of what he went through.
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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2007, 07:32:18 PM »

I didn't say 'playing out of position'.
Mourinho allows Lampard the freedom to express himself. He boosts Lampard's confidence with his man-management skills.
He told the press Lampard was the best midfielder in the world - how do you think that makes Frank feel?
Mclaren shackles Lampard, he gives him extra duties which only serve to supress his natural instincts.
Every individual player needs to be handled differently from a pyschological point of view. Some need a kick up the arse, some need reassurance. Week in week out a top club professional knows exactly what is required of him. Then he turns up for the England gathering and is asked to perform different tasks.
Ask Mourinho why Lampard under-performs for his country. Better yet, let Mourinho have Mclaren's job.


That's a bit harsh on Lampard. If he's world class I'm sure he can add one or two defensive duties to his role like all central midfielders should be able to.

As Adam said if players can play totally out of position for England then what is the problem with adding extra duties to Lampard's role?

IMO it's a dip in form, nothing more.
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« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2007, 09:23:51 PM »



you'd rather have a manager like mclaren running the national team than a manager like mourinho?

 
Not 'like,' I'd specifically rather have McLaren than Mourinho.

is a post like yours not flaming?

can we not have a conversation without ridiculing someones opinion if it differs to yours?

but yours is ridicule-able

not here it's not

Blonde is supposed to be a flame free zone.
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« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2007, 09:24:38 PM »

Lampard had a better game tonight. still by no means at his best but steady.

Beckham MOTM?
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« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2007, 09:24:46 PM »



you'd rather have a manager like mclaren running the national team than a manager like mourinho?

 
Not 'like,' I'd specifically rather have McLaren than Mourinho.

is a post like yours not flaming?

can we not have a conversation without ridiculing someones opinion if it differs to yours?

but yours is ridicule-able

not here it's not

Blonde is supposed to be a flame free zone.

But im not flaming - im ridiculing Cheesy
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« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2007, 09:26:09 PM »

same thing
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