The blonde Online Casino

[tikay]

I was going through the blonde Online Casino Reports today. Our Online Casino is an attachment to our Cardroom, bpc, about which I've Posted seperately.

The Online Casino includes a set of table games - Roulette, Blackjack & suchlike.

I've never played any of them, not even opened them. Almost forgot we had them.

So I was quite surprised,  pleasantly - I think - by the amount of revenue that goes through them. It's a very significant proportion of bpc income indeed, & a 50/50 split quite soon is not beyond possibility at current growth rates.

The oddity about this is that we have never, even in the smallest way, spammed or promoted them. We push the Cardroom as hard as we can, day after day, and it's tough, everyone is chucking rake deals around, there is not much loyalty to Online Cardrooms, & the market is mature. And yet, without any prompting, our Online Casino is turning over a very substantial (relatively) amount of money.

So it begs the question, should we promote it better/harder/louder?

And THAT begs the question, is it morally & ethically correct so to do? Urging folks to play Roulette or Blackjack, is that really a morally decent thing to do? On the face of it, no. But promoting poker is OK........?

Thoughts & comments please, & in all probability, insults too.

I really do not know the answer.

[totalise]

So I was quite surprised,  pleasantly - I think - by the amount of revenue that goes through them.

you are welcome

[GlasgowBandit]

 

[KingPoker]

I gotta be honest i dont think it is right!

I started reading the thread and i dont like to think about blonde getting almost 50% of its revenue from the table games!

[tikay]

I gotta be honest i dont think it is right!

I started reading the thread and i dont like to think about blonde getting almost 50% of its revenue from the table games!

But it does, without much (any?) prompting from us. And that in turn helps to keep us independent, & towards the goal of not having to carry adverts.

A tricky moral dilemma if ever I saw one.

[Bainn]

The revenue is certainly going to help pay the bills, but if people are prepared to play such games without any advertising, why advertise them ?

They have sought out these games, are playing them, so no need to enter the murky depths of "Is it ethical ?" right now.

[totalise]

The revenue is certainly going to help pay the bills, but if people are prepared to play such games without any advertising, why advertise them ?

They have sought out these games, are playing them, so no need to enter the murky depths of "Is it ethical ?" right now.

most people play them when they are stuck and want to try and donk a quick strike to get even, or when they are hammered and want a gamble without needing to think, so I dont think that marketing the games would make much difference, and marketing it would seem to violate the blonde ethos. Saying that, we are all adults, and its only down to us if we blow money in there, and if blonde benefit when we lose, its ok with me.

[Newmanseye]

The revenue is certainly going to help pay the bills, but if people are prepared to play such games without any advertising, why advertise them ?

They have sought out these games, are playing them, so no need to enter the murky depths of "Is it ethical ?" right now.

most people play them when they are stuck and want to try and donk a quick strike to get even, or when they are hammered and want a gamble without needing to think, so I dont think that marketing the games would make much difference, and marketing it would seem to violate the blonde ethos. Saying that, we are all adults, and its only down to us if we blow money in there, and if blonde benefit when we lose, its ok with me.

                     

[wader leg]

If someone loads $50 into the casino site and blows it blonde gets $50 ,if  someone blows $50 on poker blonde get the rake on the games played,?

[Wardonkey]

Do you want blonde to be a forum/website supported by a business or a business supported by a forum/website?

The casino income comes from poker players who enjoy a punt. Concentrate on growing the card room and you'll get the same growth in the casino.

Promoting the casino, is probably a waste of effort. It would look greedy and does not sit easily with the general feel of what is a site that is supposed to serve the best interests of poker players in general and it's members in particular.

Let the casino quietly earn it's corn without tacky and ethically questionable tactics.

[tikay]

If someone loads $50 into the casino site and blows it blonde gets $50 ,if  someone blows $50 on poker blonde get the rake on the games played,?

We don't get the $50 in either case.

In the Casino, we get a % of any "win", NOT the lot, but Loyalty Bonus or whatever does not exist, thus a bigger % drops straight through to the bottom line. On the flip side, we have to stand any losses we make - if a punter wins big, we cop for it. It's the punter versus the "house". (blonde).

On the Cardroom, the punter/player does not play against the house (blonde) he plays against other punters/players, blonde effectively charges a fee (rake, or reg fees), but blonde does not expose itself to any risk, as the player is playing against other players, not the house. We have to give away Loyalty Bonus, thus reducing our income, but it's risk free, assuming we are covering overheads. (Staff & promotional costs).

In both cases, the Service Provider (Bowmans/i-Poker) take a slice.

[wader leg]

I forgot that people sometimes win at the casino

[tikay]

Do you want blonde to be a forum/website supported by a business or a business supported by a forum/website?

The casino income comes from poker players who enjoy a punt. Concentrate on growing the card room and you'll get the same growth in the casino.

Promoting the casino, is probably a waste of effort. It would look greedy and does not sit easily with the general feel of what is a site that is supposed to serve the best interests of poker players in general and it's members in particular.

Let the casino quietly earn it's corn without tacky and ethically questionable tactics.

I just don't know what to think, but I like this reply a lot. Especially.....

Concentrate on growing the card room and you'll get the same growth in the casino.

And.......

Promoting the casino, is probably a waste of effort. It would look greedy and does not sit easily with the general feel of what is a site that is supposed to serve the best interests of poker players in general and it's members in particular.

The fact is, this dilemma struck me today, & not all the major Shareholders take the same view on the way forward.

So far, I feel pretty comfy with your response, though I'm a bit mixed up about the whole thing, hence the thread - I need help to make my mind up.

If it really does grow at the same rate as the Cardroom, I'd settle for that. Do you have evidence to support this view?

[tikay]

I forgot that people sometimes win at the casino

In the long run, the House must win, providing we have the critical mass. But in the short-term, we are exposed to big winners, who can win big some days. And do, trust me!

[suzanne]

I didnt even realise that Blonde had a casino but personally I wouldnt go there anyway.

I used to have a paddypower account and discovered they had a Deal or no Deal equivelent and when i was errr "tired" I would play for "fun" and managed to demolish my bankroll on there chasing the bigee...we live and learn.

I have to admit I have done the same on other sites playing Blackjack which I have a very limited knowledge of and roulette which was shut my eyes and click.

I dont think you need to promote the casino because really you just want idiots like me to pop in now and again dont you?