Liverpool FC

[fatshaft]

You don't need a confession, it was a busy bar, tons of Liverpool supporters around, someone knows who did it.

again like your 'someone did it' comment, obv someone knows who did it, but whats your point?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years? Railing at the alleged injustice, or fast tracking his release by actually putting forward who did it, with the fortuitous side-effect - Shields would have got out? We're not talking about some random attack here after all, we're talking about something that happened amongst arguably the most close knit set of football supporters in the world, from the most close knit of communities; there is no doubt many on that trip, and throughout the city know who did it, whether that be Shields or someone else.

Now, that would be justice, as I'm sure Martin Georgiev would agree.

[Acidmouse]

Someone has admitted to it, so not sure what you on about.

[kinboshi]

You don't need a confession, it was a busy bar, tons of Liverpool supporters around, someone knows who did it.

again like your 'someone did it' comment, obv someone knows who did it, but whats your point?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years? Railing at the alleged injustice, or fast tracking his release by actually putting forward who did it, with the fortuitous side-effect - Shields would have got out? We're not talking about some random attack here after all, we're talking about something that happened amongst arguably the most close knit set of football supporters in the world, from the most close knit of communities; there is no doubt many on that trip, and throughout the city know who did it, whether that be Shields or someone else.

Now, that would be justice, as I'm sure Martin Georgiev would agree.

I thought you were up to speed with this case?  Please read the summary on wikipedia that I posted. 

As for campaigning to find the culprit - do you do that for every mugging, attempted murder, murder that takes place when the perpetrator hasn't been caught?  Surely that's what the police and the legal system is meant to pursue.  When there's a blatant miscarriage of justice, of course there is public outcry. 

Not sure what your point it, except to bash scousers.

[fatshaft]

Someone has admitted to it, so not sure what you on about.

This perhaps?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years?

Now perhaps if pressure had been put on the guy, like it seems to have been recently, then your lad would have gotten out sooner eh?

[fatshaft]

You don't need a confession, it was a busy bar, tons of Liverpool supporters around, someone knows who did it.

again like your 'someone did it' comment, obv someone knows who did it, but whats your point?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years? Railing at the alleged injustice, or fast tracking his release by actually putting forward who did it, with the fortuitous side-effect - Shields would have got out? We're not talking about some random attack here after all, we're talking about something that happened amongst arguably the most close knit set of football supporters in the world, from the most close knit of communities; there is no doubt many on that trip, and throughout the city know who did it, whether that be Shields or someone else.

Now, that would be justice, as I'm sure Martin Georgiev would agree.

I thought you were up to speed with this case?  Please read the summary on wikipedia that I posted. 

As for campaigning to find the culprit - do you do that for every mugging, attempted murder, murder that takes place when the perpetrator hasn't been caught?  Surely that's what the police and the legal system is meant to pursue.  When there's a blatant miscarriage of justice, of course there is public outcry. 

Not sure what your point it, except to bash scousers.

Ah yes, Wikipedia, can't understand why he wasn't pardoned earlier with Wikipedia to refer to? In fact, why didn't Jack  Straw just read RAWK?   

You're either being deliberatly obtuse, or you simply don't follow that identifying the real perpetrator from what would have been a small group, is a million miles from someone being wrongly locked up for a random murder that could have been commited by anyone? Usually (from cases I've read about or seen on TV) when a miscarraige of justice is uncovered, a large part of that is at the very least pointing towards the real culprit, and yet despite the ease with which this could have been done here, I have not seen one single appeal for the real attacker to come forward, or appeals for information to help trace him.

[kinboshi]

You don't need a confession, it was a busy bar, tons of Liverpool supporters around, someone knows who did it.

again like your 'someone did it' comment, obv someone knows who did it, but whats your point?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years? Railing at the alleged injustice, or fast tracking his release by actually putting forward who did it, with the fortuitous side-effect - Shields would have got out? We're not talking about some random attack here after all, we're talking about something that happened amongst arguably the most close knit set of football supporters in the world, from the most close knit of communities; there is no doubt many on that trip, and throughout the city know who did it, whether that be Shields or someone else.

Now, that would be justice, as I'm sure Martin Georgiev would agree.

I thought you were up to speed with this case?  Please read the summary on wikipedia that I posted. 

As for campaigning to find the culprit - do you do that for every mugging, attempted murder, murder that takes place when the perpetrator hasn't been caught?  Surely that's what the police and the legal system is meant to pursue.  When there's a blatant miscarriage of justice, of course there is public outcry. 

Not sure what your point it, except to bash scousers.

Ah yes, Wikipedia, can't understand why he wasn't pardoned earlier with Wikipedia to refer to? In fact, why didn't Jack  Straw just read RAWK?   

You're either being deliberatly obtuse, or you simply don't follow that identifying the real perpetrator from what would have been a small group, is a million miles from someone being wrongly locked up for a random murder that could have been commited by anyone? Usually (from cases I've read about or seen on TV) when a miscarraige of justice is uncovered, a large part of that is at the very least pointing towards the real culprit, and yet despite the ease with which this could have been done here, I have not seen one single appeal for the real attacker to come forward, or appeals for information to help trace him.

There have been many. 

[TightEnd]

Right


thread tidied up. Insults, retorts and the rest deleted

Pack it in everyone. I know its an emotive issue but if it carries on like that the ban stick will be coming out

Thank you

[fatshaft]

Right


thread tidied up. Insults, retorts and the rest deleted

Pack it in everyone. I know its an emotive issue but if it carries on like that the ban stick will be coming out

Thank you

Totally agree, so can we get rid of the trolling whathellisthis.com type posts please?

[TightEnd]

Right


thread tidied up. Insults, retorts and the rest deleted

Pack it in everyone. I know its an emotive issue but if it carries on like that the ban stick will be coming out

Thank you

Totally agree, so can we get rid of the trolling whathellisthis.com type posts please?

done, you are posting quicker than I can tidy it up

Please heed my warning Mr Fatshaft, ty, and Mr Fatshaft's opponents, ty

[kinboshi]

Someone has admitted to it, so not sure what you on about.

This perhaps?

If Shields didn't do it, what do you think would have been more proiductive the last four years?

Now perhaps if pressure had been put on the guy, like it seems to have been recently, then your lad would have gotten out sooner eh?

Until very recently the British justice system had absolutely no say in granting a pardon or submitting any evidence to the Bulgarians. 

The Bulgarian justice system had their man, what should have been done?  Rendition and then get Jack Bauer in to interrogate a confession out of him?

[Acidmouse]

Come on fat, your statements are designed to tilt everyone on here, random general sweeping statements about whats right and wrong. You knew nothing about the case and have made some crazy posts claiming you knew facts. Ofcourse its gonna piss off people.  But then again that's what trolls do, inflame, provoke reactions but offer no solution. Let people celebrate the fact someone innocent got freed.  He deserved it, lets not try resolve all the probmeon of the world right now, they ain't appropriate on this thread.

You can see it tilted people yet you went on and on.

[fatshaft]

Anyway, back on topic, great stuff from BBC NW tonight (as opposed to Granada who were terrible) who highlighted exactly why this was right, that there is still a victim - that they made the effort to interview - and tried to track down Sankey, who has apprently gone into hiding.

Given the fact that he is apparently the guilty party after all, and his initial confession wasn't just a put up job, why wasn't this guy houjnded in the last four years to speed up Shields release?

[fatshaft]

Come on fat, your statements are designed to tilt everyone on here, random general sweeping statements about whats right and wrong. You knew nothing about the case and have made some crazy posts claiming you knew facts. Ofcourse its gonna piss off people.  But then again that's what trolls do, inflame, provoke reactions but offer no solution. Let people celebrate the fact someone innocent got freed.  He deserved it, lets not try resolve all the probmeon of the world right now, they ain't appropriate on this thread.

You can see it tilted people yet you went on and on.

shut up unless you have a contribution to make please

[kinboshi]

Anyway, back on topic, great stuff from BBC NW tonight (as opposed to Granada who were terrible) who highlighted exactly why this was right, that there is still a victim - that they made the effort to interview - and tried to track down Sankey, who has apprently gone into hiding.

Given the fact that he is apparently the guilty party after all, and his initial confession wasn't just a put up job, why wasn't this guy houjnded in the last four years to speed up Shields release?

I answered that a few posts ago and asked you what could have been done?

[TightEnd]

Come on fat, your statements are designed to tilt everyone on here, random general sweeping statements about whats right and wrong. You knew nothing about the case and have made some crazy posts claiming you knew facts. Ofcourse its gonna piss off people.  But then again that's what trolls do, inflame, provoke reactions but offer no solution. Let people celebrate the fact someone innocent got freed.  He deserved it, lets not try resolve all the probmeon of the world right now, they ain't appropriate on this thread.

You can see it tilted people yet you went on and on.

shut up unless you have a contribution to make please

ENOUGH


Final warning. Please.