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« Reply #5310 on: March 22, 2012, 05:58:17 PM » |
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The only manager that can spend £100m and still be in a job when results ain't been great all season
[ ] net spend was £100m Keep on papering over those cracks
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nirvana
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« Reply #5311 on: March 22, 2012, 06:05:18 PM » |
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[ ] net spend was £100m [/quote]
I think the net spend number should only be of interest to beanies/investors. From a footballing perspective - if you spend £100m and that £100m of players doesn't really ensure you become a more competitive side then there's a lot of fail involved. I mean we're not playing football manager, we just want our team to get better.
I think Arsene Wenger is ace but I don't like to see poor buys defended based on overall net spend stats. Just because fortunes are received for Fabregas, Anelka et al, it does not make Mertesacker, Chamakh etc into good buys. It's still money badly spent.
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George2Loose
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« Reply #5312 on: March 22, 2012, 06:07:28 PM » |
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Yeh this whole net spend this is stupid. He has bought badly. They've won the Championship cup after scraping it on penalties and it's simply papering over the fact that they've made abso no progress in the league.
Keep him I say
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outragous76
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« Reply #5313 on: March 22, 2012, 06:11:08 PM » |
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Def keep him
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Josedinho
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« Reply #5314 on: March 22, 2012, 06:32:33 PM » |
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Does Comolli not complicate things? Kenny has "spent" 100mil but is anybody sure which signings were his and which weren't?
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kinboshi
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« Reply #5315 on: March 22, 2012, 06:57:21 PM » |
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Those who want to ignore 'net spend' are missing the point.
If you sell a midfielder and get another in, and they are of similar ability then the net gain to the team is zero. You can't just say that the club spent £10M or £20M on a new player.
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« Reply #5316 on: March 22, 2012, 06:58:25 PM » |
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Kenny 'spent' 100m to improve a squad that lost about 70m of talent so for that you would expect a slight improvement on last season and I think he's done that.
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George2Loose
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« Reply #5317 on: March 22, 2012, 07:00:08 PM » |
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Those who want to ignore 'net spend' are missing the point.
If you sell a midfielder and get another in, and they are of similar ability then the net gain to the team is zero. You can't just say that the club spent £10M or £20M on a new player.
What if he sold a pile of shit and got a bigger lump of shit in?
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kinboshi
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« Reply #5318 on: March 22, 2012, 07:01:58 PM » |
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Those who want to ignore 'net spend' are missing the point.
If you sell a midfielder and get another in, and they are of similar ability then the net gain to the team is zero. You can't just say that the club spent £10M or £20M on a new player.
What if he sold a pile of shit and got a bigger lump of shit in? That would need to be looked at. It's still not ignoring net spend though, is it?
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MANTIS01
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« Reply #5319 on: March 22, 2012, 07:06:00 PM » |
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Good post nirvana.
Perhaps it would be prudent for fans to have more of an interest in the economics of their clubs these days what with all the liquidation cases. But then again if you played Top Trumps and "net spend" was the banker stat for your current team it would be meh.
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« Reply #5320 on: March 22, 2012, 07:07:43 PM » |
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Good post nirvana.
Perhaps it would be prudent for fans to have more of an interest in the economics of their clubs these days what with all the liquidation cases. But then again if you played Top Trumps and "net spend" was the banker stat for your current team it would be meh.
So Liverpool didn't have to sell any players to buy the ones they did? The 'net gain' to the squad is obviously less if you have to sell a decent player to buy another decent player, rather than just buying the decent player. Of course, you buy donkeys that doesn't help.
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« Reply #5321 on: March 22, 2012, 07:12:23 PM » |
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The Troll Patrol are in full force tonight!
Did you guys all pay the troll toll?
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« Reply #5322 on: March 22, 2012, 07:14:27 PM » |
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Good post nirvana.
Perhaps it would be prudent for fans to have more of an interest in the economics of their clubs these days what with all the liquidation cases. But then again if you played Top Trumps and "net spend" was the banker stat for your current team it would be meh.
So Liverpool didn't have to sell any players to buy the ones they did? The 'net gain' to the squad is obviously less if you have to sell a decent player to buy another decent player, rather than just buying the decent player. Of course, you buy donkeys that doesn't help. No just saying when a fan uses the "net gain" stats to defend their current team that team is prob meh.
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« Reply #5323 on: March 22, 2012, 07:15:46 PM » |
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Liverpool need a goal-scorer this summer. Carroll has lived up to many people's expectations of him, and Suarez isn't an out-and-out goal-scorer. Good article about how Suarez needs to play with a proper goal-scoring striker here: http://tomkinstimes.com/2012/03/luis-suarez-9-or-10/
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« Reply #5324 on: March 22, 2012, 07:17:04 PM » |
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Good post nirvana.
Perhaps it would be prudent for fans to have more of an interest in the economics of their clubs these days what with all the liquidation cases. But then again if you played Top Trumps and "net spend" was the banker stat for your current team it would be meh.
So Liverpool didn't have to sell any players to buy the ones they did? The 'net gain' to the squad is obviously less if you have to sell a decent player to buy another decent player, rather than just buying the decent player. Of course, you buy donkeys that doesn't help. No just saying when a fan uses the "net gain" stats to defend their current team that team is prob meh. I didn't, I just pointed out that saying £100M has been spent is misleading, as not all of that £100M has gone towards adding to the squad, some of it has gone towards replacing players who have gone the other way.
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