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« Reply #4845 on: January 03, 2012, 07:39:23 PM »

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« Reply #4846 on: January 03, 2012, 07:40:02 PM »

Am I right in thinking if Liverpool draw to Oldham and then beat them in a replay Suarez would only miss 3 league games?
Worth backing the draw?

No. After tonight he'll only miss Stoke Wolves and Bolton in the league.

Makes sense to take the ban now over an important run in.
4th round game is before Bolton though isn't it so replay must be before that. Would that not count?

It would but I think we'd rather take a loss there and win our league games.
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« Reply #4847 on: January 03, 2012, 07:45:27 PM »

Back to more important things. Does anyone here think LFC can beat Man City tonight?

no gerrard and and no bellamy

very hard without
you wont see Bellamy start two games  on a trot very often this season as his fitness levels arnt what they use to be so probaly Daglish looking after him long term. hes no spring chicken any more

Abs amazed Bellamy isn't playing.
you wont see Bellamy start two games ona trot very often this season as his fitness levels arnt what they use to be plus has aggrivating injuries that limit his games nowadays so Daglish is forced to look after him for longevity . Also hes no spring chicken anymore!
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« Reply #4848 on: January 03, 2012, 07:46:48 PM »

Am I right in thinking if Liverpool draw to Oldham and then beat them in a replay Suarez would only miss 3 league games?
Worth backing the draw?

No. After tonight he'll only miss Stoke Wolves and Bolton in the league.

Makes sense to take the ban now over an important run in.
4th round game is before Bolton though isn't it so replay must be before that. Would that not count?

It would but I think we'd rather take a loss there and win our league games.
If you take a loss he misses the Spurs game too. No doubt Kenny will want him for that game.
Get a 1 goal lead and concede a late goal. Replay would mean he's back for Spurs no matter the replay result. If you win you get him for another league game. Don't think Oldham would object to going to a replay to get you at home - a money maker and you play a league game Tuesday so they might get a crack at squad players.
10/1 had me thinking whether it was worth it.
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« Reply #4849 on: January 03, 2012, 07:50:36 PM »

Liverpool Statement:


It is our strongly held conviction that the Football Association and the panel it selected constructed a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated.

The FA and the panel chose to consistently and methodically accept and embrace arguments leading to a set of conclusions that found Mr. Suarez to "probably" be guilty while in the same manner deciding to completely dismiss the testimony that countered their overall suppositions.

Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.

The facts in this case were that an accusation was made, a rebuttal was given and there was video of the match.  The remaining facts came from testimony of people who did not corroborate any accusation made by Mr. Evra.

In its determination to prove its conclusions to the public through a clearly subjective 115-page document, the FA panel has damaged the reputation of one of the Premier League's best players, deciding he should be punished and banned for perhaps a quarter of a season.  This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation.

Nevertheless, there are ultimately larger issues than whether or not Luis Suarez has been treated fairly by the Football Association in this matter.  There are important points we want to make today that overshadow what has occurred during the past two months.

The issue of race in sports, as in other industries, has a very poor history. Far too often, and in far too many countries, the issues of racism and discrimination have been covered over or ignored.

In America, where Liverpool ownership resides, there was a shameful bigotry that prevented black athletes from competing at the highest levels for decades.

English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below, and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion.  The Luis Suarez case has to end so that the Premier League, the Football Association and the Club can continue the progress that has been made and will continue to be made and not risk a perception, at least by some, that would diminish our commitment on these issues.

Liverpool Football Club have supported Luis Suarez because we fundamentally do not believe that Luis on that day - or frankly any other - did or would engage in a racist act. Notably, his actions on and off the pitch with his teammates and in the community have demonstrated his belief that all athletes can play together and that the colour of a person's skin is irrelevant.

Continuing a fight for justice in this particular case beyond today would only obscure the fact that the Club wholeheartedly supports the efforts of the Football Association, the Football League and the Premier League to put an end to any form of racism in English football.

It is time to put the Luis Suarez matter to rest and for all of us, going forward, to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport.

It is for this reason that we will not appeal the eight-game suspension of Luis Suarez.
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« Reply #4850 on: January 03, 2012, 07:51:26 PM »

Back to more important things. Does anyone here think LFC can beat Man City tonight?

no gerrard and and no bellamy

very hard without

Abs amazed Bellamy isn't playing.

Abs. amazed by the PR hole your boys have dug for themselves.
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« Reply #4851 on: January 03, 2012, 07:55:44 PM »

Back to more important things. Does anyone here think LFC can beat Man City tonight?

no gerrard and and no bellamy

very hard without

Abs amazed Bellamy isn't playing.

Abs. amazed by the PR hole your boys have dug for themselves.

It'll be forgotten in 2 months. Defend him if you think he's innocent IMO.

The tshirts weren't brilliant admittedly.
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« Reply #4852 on: January 03, 2012, 08:17:32 PM »

Liverpool Statement:

We defend Mr Reina and his form this season
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« Reply #4853 on: January 03, 2012, 08:33:43 PM »

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« Reply #4854 on: January 03, 2012, 08:36:27 PM »

Liverpool Statement:

We defend Mr Reina and his form this season

Amazingly before it went to 2-0 he'd conceded less than Hart this season. That goal screwed my stat up nicely :-)
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« Reply #4855 on: January 03, 2012, 08:37:52 PM »

Liverpool Statement:

We defend Mr Reina and his form this season

Amazingly before it went to 2-0 he'd conceded less than Hart this season. That goal screwed my stat up nicely :-)


but I think he's slowly going over the hill, right? Not quite the player he was? (not declining as quickly as Cech though)
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« Reply #4856 on: January 03, 2012, 09:02:12 PM »

Liverpool Statement:

We defend Mr Reina and his form this season

Amazingly before it went to 2-0 he'd conceded less than Hart this season. That goal screwed my stat up nicely :-)


but I think he's slowly going over the hill, right? Not quite the player he was? (not declining as quickly as Cech though)

Statistically I guess on last season you could say that. I'm not seeing the standard issues in Reina that Cech has though. TBH I'm not even convinced Cech is "declining" I think it's confidence. Reina will be back in the 15+ clean sheet range this season I would bet.
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« Reply #4857 on: January 03, 2012, 09:14:26 PM »

Liverpool Statement:

We defend Mr Reina and his form this season

Amazingly before it went to 2-0 he'd conceded less than Hart this season. That goal screwed my stat up nicely :-)


but I think he's slowly going over the hill, right? Not quite the player he was? (not declining as quickly as Cech though)

Think you may mean Dirk Kuyt?
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« Reply #4858 on: January 03, 2012, 10:35:27 PM »

I thought Reina had been class this season ? Redknapp and Neville talking about Hart as being better than Casillas and being the best in the world was a level surely ? WTF ? Made far too many mistakes this season and is no way a World Class keeper yet. Also was Bellamy a selection decision ? Seems absurd Dalglish wouldn't start him against his old club after he smashed us up.
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« Reply #4859 on: January 03, 2012, 10:39:59 PM »

Yeh seems pretty bad judgement not starting Bellamy.In form, old club who basically told him to gtfo.
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