Bernard Manning Bites the Dust

[Swordpoker]

Whilst I have no problem whatsoever with jokes about people who are different I do have a problem with people who are admittedly racist.

Manning was exactly that, a self-confessed racist. Good riddance.

Coz the ones that don't admit they are racist are so much better.

[tikay]

Whilst I have no problem whatsoever with jokes about people who are different I do have a problem with people who are admittedly racist.

Manning was exactly that, a self-confessed racist. Good riddance.

PLEASE!

Let the fella be buried first, then have your fun.

[ifm]

the viscious bile and hatred to come out of some peoples mouths loosely disguised as 'a joke' and my comment aren't in the same ball park.

Brilliant!!!!
Wishing someones death is now lesser than telling a joke!

[MPOWER]

I'm not accepting my view is wrong, just that I shouldn't have aired it here.
the viscious bile and hatred to come out of some peoples mouths loosely disguised as 'a joke' and my comment aren't in the same ball park.
I'll happily discuss my feelings on people like Manning and Brown in person with people.
I'm acknowledging the Blonde public forum isn't the place, nothing more.

Adam. These people are comics  they make people laugh. There not on t.v there sucess is down to  word of mouth
you have to pay to view either DVD or live. You can make your choice. It says everywhere if offended stay away.

If it were down to the right and wrong ways to make a living I think your business of fruit machinces has caused
far more social harm and stress to Individuals and families than any Brown/Manning gag


Regards

M

[kinboshi]

I can stay away from a BNP or Combat 18 meeting - but I can also voice my displeasure and disagreement with what they say.

Bernard Manning was a relic.  Attitudes of what is generally accepted in terms of racist comments (in jokes, the media, and in daily life) changes over time.  Compared to the general attitude of today, many people who were living at the turn of the 20th century in the UK would probably have what is considered in this day and age as racist views. 

Even over the last 20 or 30 years, attitudes and the overriding sense of morality (what's right and wrong) changes.  Manning's act is now considered unacceptable by the vast majority of people in the UK.  Just because people may find humour in it, doesn't make it right or acceptable.  I'm sure the speakers at the BNP meetings crack some jokes that get some laughs.

Working class hero?  I'd rather place Billy Connolly as a working-class comedy hero in place of Manning.

[happybhoy]

I have to say that I was disgusted at the comment that was made yesterday wishing death on a living person and it is only because I was too tired that I refrained from pouring out some bile at its author, who should be thoroughly ashamed at having made it.

I'll go ahead and assume this one is mine. The only shame I feel is that it required modding and in retrospect this probably wasn't the place to post it and I should have known better. For any hassle I've caused the mods I apologise. As for the content, it's genuinely the way I feel although 'wishing death' is reading a little more into it than I intended, I'll concede it's in the same ballpark and I can't be bothered arguing semantics. If you still have the need, feel free to vent via pm.

[johnbhoy76]

He was an entertainer at the end of the day, not a political activist,

Hmmmmm

If you look closely at the audiance at his gigs when he makes "p*ki" jokes or jokes about immigrants etc... the audiance are not laughing but applauding & cheering.

It is more like a political rally.

He did a gig in Glasgow about 2 years ago and his closing line was "Make sure to smack a p*ki on the way home".

This was obviously a joke on his part but I can guarentee about 50% or more of the audiance didn't take it as a joke and took it very seriously and there was probably some poor sod who got a kicking that night due Mr Mannings comments.

The guy was a racist who attracted a racist audiance to his gigs. It's as simple as that.

I know it'll be nice and warm where he is now.

[bolt pp]

He was an entertainer at the end of the day, not a political activist,

there was probably some poor sod who got a kicking that night due Mr Mannings comments.

LOL, ANYONE that has the capability of doing this at the comedic behest of mr manning didn't need any encouragement in the first place!

[johnbhoy76]

He was an entertainer at the end of the day, not a political activist,

there was probably some poor sod who got a kicking that night due Mr Mannings comments.

LOL, ANYONE that has the capability of doing this at the comedic behest of mr manning didn't need any encouragement in the first place!

Well I disagree

The simpletons who find guys like Manning & Chubby Brown funny are precisely the type of people who could be influenced by this sort of comment.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Take Mannings joke about Blacks & Asians born in UK not being "British"

He said "Just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse".

I've lost count of the number of times I've heard folk repeat this "joke" as a serious political point.

The idea that guys like Manning & Chubby Brown do not encourage racist violence & racist views is naive in the extreme

[AdamM]

 

[bolt pp]

He was an entertainer at the end of the day, not a political activist,

there was probably some poor sod who got a kicking that night due Mr Mannings comments.

LOL, ANYONE that has the capability of doing this at the comedic behest of mr manning didn't need any encouragement in the first place!

The idea that guys like Manning & Chubby Brown do not encourage racist violence & racist views is naive in the extreme

maybe I'm an extremely naive person and whilst i agree that they undoubtedly promote "racist views" the idea that they "encourage racist violence" is ludicrous.

[AdamM]

why is it ludicrous?

seems quite a sensible idea to me

[wader leg]

The simpletons who find guys like Manning & Chubby Brown funny are precisely the type of people who could be influenced by this sort of comment.

At least you're alive and well to keep their stereotypical traditions going!

[Colchester Kev]

The simpletons who find guys like Manning & Chubby Brown funny are precisely the type of people who could be influenced by this sort of comment.

Congratulations, you have won the award for "most sweeping generalisation ever"

I have laughed at Manning and I have laughed at Chubby Brown ... I dont think I am a simpleton and i certainly have never attacked anyone or even thought of attacking anyone after seeing either comedian.

I wont be going to see Eddie Izzard, i might get the urge to wear womens clothes.... and god help me if i ever laugh at Norton ... im bound to turn gay ... arent ! ??

[bolt pp]

why is it ludicrous?

seems quite a sensible idea to me

that bernad manning promotes racial violence?

a socialist doesn't go to a Bernard manning gig and come out with a swas stika on his arm.

I'm just incredulous that someone without any existing racist tendencies goes to a bernad manning gig and "hits a p**i" on his way home because bernad manning said it in a joke

those with existing violent and racist tendencies dont need the incitement from bernard manning in the first place.