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« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2007, 10:09:42 PM »

Quite high... Do you think possibly 80-90 ...lower...or possibly higher?

What is this - Play Your Cards Right?

Get to the point.
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« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2007, 10:10:39 PM »

I believe in a God... I choose to do this via Catholicism...

All religions generally believe in the same thing.. A grand architect of the universe....And we practice it via different principles and methods.....

If you were to have a percentage of the people in the world who believe in some form of higher being, I wonder what the percentage would be?? I will guess between 80-90....

and most of them are Muslims so the Catholics, Protestants and the Atheists are wrong ?
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« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2007, 10:11:43 PM »

Most of them are not muslims surely? China and India...
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« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2007, 10:11:53 PM »

I believe in a God... I choose to do this via Catholicism...

All religions generally believe in the same thing.. A grand architect of the universe....And we practice it via different principles and methods.....

If you were to have a percentage of the people in the world who believe in some form of higher being, I wonder what the percentage would be?? I will guess between 80-90....

and most of them are Muslims so the Catholics, Protestants and the Atheists are wrong ?

As Richard Dawkins says, we're all atheists.

It's just some of us are atheist about one more god than most other people.
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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2007, 10:12:13 PM »

I believe in a God... I choose to do this via Catholicism...

All religions generally believe in the same thing.. A grand architect of the universe....And we practice it via different principles and methods.....

If you were to have a percentage of the people in the world who believe in some form of higher being, I wonder what the percentage would be?? I will guess between 80-90....

46% of Americans believe God created the earth around 6000 years ago, you aren't backed by the most influential of groups. You are not offering proof and nor should you feel the need to, whatever makes you and those close to you happy is good enough, but it doesn't make Andrew wrong that he is of a minority, and it is always useful to question.

Most Americans do not know where Iraq is on a map......

Andrew, you still have not answered the question...
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« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2007, 10:13:12 PM »

Christianity: 2.1 billion

Islam: 1.3 billion

Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion

Hinduism: 900 million

Chinese traditional religion: 394 million

Buddhism: 376 million

Didn't expect that. Sorry Sikhs and Jews and whatever else, apparently you suck.
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« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2007, 10:15:26 PM »

I believe in a God... I choose to do this via Catholicism...

All religions generally believe in the same thing.. A grand architect of the universe....And we practice it via different principles and methods.....

If you were to have a percentage of the people in the world who believe in some form of higher being, I wonder what the percentage would be?? I will guess between 80-90....

and most of them are Muslims so the Catholics, Protestants and the Atheists are wrong ?

As Richard Dawkins says, we're all atheists.

It's just some of us are atheist about one more god than most other people.

That's my point on this Dawkins chap, we aren't all atheists, by his very own methods he should realize the very idea of atheism is anathema to what science is trying to get across.
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« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2007, 10:18:10 PM »

Andrew, you still have not answered the question...

A web search reveals that the five biggest religious groups (Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and adherents of Chinese folk religions) account for between 69-78% of people.

So, what's your point?
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« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2007, 10:23:40 PM »

There was no point... It was just a question...

There is enough feeling and belief of a higher being for more than half of the world to accept this, therefore it should not be discounted out of hand.

Atheism is a detachment from superstition, a recognition of there being no credible evidence of a higher being...By that I cannot imagine a true atheist...

I have no problem with anyone being an atheist...As long as the ateists have no problem with me being a catholic..
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« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2007, 10:44:37 PM »

I have no problem with anyone being an atheist...As long as the ateists have no problem with me being a catholic..

We don't.

Now, why is Tesco shut at 8pm on a Sunday?

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« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2007, 10:50:47 PM »

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/WhyAtheism.htm

Read this from the link above makes perfect sense to me.

As an example, let’s talk about belief in Santa Claus.  Don’t we have more respect for a child who figures out that Santa doesn’t exist, and says so, rather than continuing to lie so he can get more presents?  It’s a sign of growing integrity and maturity for children to stop believing in Santa.  Similarly, adults can give up belief in a god when they realize that there’s no real evidence for their god.


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« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2007, 10:51:37 PM »



I have no problem with anyone being an atheist...As long as the ateists have no problem with me being a catholic..


Providing the said atheists aren't women wanting abortions, homosexuals or people using condoms as a form of birth control ?
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« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2007, 10:52:09 PM »

There is enough feeling and belief of a higher being for more than half of the world to accept this, therefore it should not be discounted out of hand.

Yes it can - Dawkins explains why. Why shouldn't more than half the world be wrong?

Atheism is a detachment from superstition, a recognition of there being no credible evidence of a higher being...By that I cannot imagine a true atheist...

I have no idea what that sentence means.
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« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2007, 10:52:20 PM »

All shops were shut on Sundays, this has mellowed over the years... And it will not be long before it is allowed to open 24hours 7 days a week.

But it is the way it is now becasue the country was/is predominately Catholic and Sunday is a day of rest. The owners of Tesco may not want to open up on a Sunday for 24 hours..

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« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2007, 10:55:31 PM »

Nobody can comprehend how the universe came into existence, of course there was the big bang that's fairly certain, but again, where did all this come from, nobody knows, and nobody can comprehend, therefore to rule out a possibility by subscribing to atheism is tantamount to all this "there is no real proof God exists", you are expressing a belief for or against something nobody can realsitically have a f**king clue about.
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