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kinboshi
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I think what you're referring to there is the anthropic principle, and also the inverse gambler's fallacy.
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Quote from: kinboshi on August 09, 2007, 04:23:52 PM
I think what you're referring to there is the anthropic principle, and also the inverse gambler's fallacy.
Both dice ended up spinning on a corner.
Why is there something and not nothing?
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Don't know, but I don't think it was all 'created' for our benefit.
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Christians have it so easy...
While there are other possible outcomes, how we find ourselves was largely dictated by the way the big bang developed from the start, and this, surely, connected to how it came about. I don't see how much of what is here now can be explained until someone can explain how the big bang came about.
Believers always retort 'everything around you that happens has a cause; the big bang had to have a cause. This is God.' How can you possibly ascribe anything to outside this universe according to what you find inside it?
Where's FlyingPig when you need him?
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If the argument is that the world is so complex that a god must have designed it, then God would indeed be so complex that he too must have been be designed.
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http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=26428.new#new
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
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Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
The headline is "Sikh girl in Catholic school row". She's 4 years old. How/Why is she a Sikh girl, in the same way a 4 year old girl with Catholic parents is a 'Catholic girl'?
What a load of nonsense.
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Quote from: kinboshi on August 21, 2007, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
The headline is "Sikh girl in Catholic school row". She's 4 years old. How/Why is she a Sikh girl, in the same way a 4 year old girl with Catholic parents is a 'Catholic girl'?
What a load of nonsense.
Mass and religious education are part of the school ethos/curriculum. They don't wish to waste efforts or tax-payers money on those who have little or no chance of salvation.
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Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 09:58:34 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on August 21, 2007, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
The headline is "Sikh girl in Catholic school row". She's 4 years old. How/Why is she a Sikh girl, in the same way a 4 year old girl with Catholic parents is a 'Catholic girl'?
What a load of nonsense.
Mass and religious education are part of the school ethos/curriculum. They don't wish to waste efforts or tax-payers money on those who have little or no chance of salvation.
Well that's obviously ridiculous too, but this labelling of children as a catholic girl or a sikh girl is bloody nonsense - and actually harmful. Let's create arbitrary boundaries and prejudices in innocent children before they have a chance to make their minds up for themselves.
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Quote from: kinboshi on August 21, 2007, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
The headline is "Sikh girl in Catholic school row". She's 4 years old. How/Why is she a Sikh girl, in the same way a 4 year old girl with Catholic parents is a 'Catholic girl'?
What a load of nonsense.
She is a Sikh girl because her parents are Sikhs, and they are trying to con their child's way into a Catholic school because they believe she will receive a better education. Pretty standard really, if further clarification is required I can draw you a picture.
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Quote from: CelticGeezeer on August 22, 2007, 12:56:23 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on August 21, 2007, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: fearisthekey on August 21, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/6955889.stm
The headline is "Sikh girl in Catholic school row". She's 4 years old. How/Why is she a Sikh girl, in the same way a 4 year old girl with Catholic parents is a 'Catholic girl'?
What a load of nonsense.
She is a Sikh girl because her parents are Sikhs, and they are trying to con their child's way into a Catholic school because they believe she will receive a better education. Pretty standard really, if further clarification is required I can draw you a picture.
draw me a picture. Maybe they have no respect for intake selection based on religion nonsense, and are just playing the system?
Kinboshi, I think much of religion relies on getting it into their heads while they're too young to see past it. And the cycle repeats.
Having said that, my nephew (5), of very christian upbringing, just came out with 'I don't really think I believe this god stuff, not the jesus bit anyway.' (horrified parents). This is only 6 months after his 'no santa' breakthrough. Maybe he's bright. Or maybe he's just trying to get into the local Secularist school.
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Re: British and Christian and Proud
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says the school is oversubscribed, there is a process and (as mentioned) an appeal process.
This seems to have failed for them too so they are trying the "religious card" and involving the media to try to beat a good system, is that not actually the "racist card" too??
Tell 'em to bugger off i say
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Sikh mummy and daddy with little sikh kids
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Catholic mummy and daddy with little catholic kids
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