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« Reply #240 on: August 24, 2007, 04:36:25 PM »

The British have passed a lot of stupid laws  which are treated with the contempt they deserve.

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« Reply #241 on: August 24, 2007, 04:46:27 PM »

Like Blair and Brown LOL
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« Reply #242 on: August 24, 2007, 04:53:34 PM »

1 or 2 more

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« Reply #243 on: August 24, 2007, 05:02:10 PM »


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« Reply #244 on: August 24, 2007, 06:46:58 PM »

2 degrees of separation.

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« Reply #245 on: August 24, 2007, 09:36:40 PM »

I think it was the tone of your post more than anything Adam. Implying people are stupid for believing in something 'silly'. Not all people who hold religious beliefs feel the need to tell/talk about it or try and convert their children/friends into believing. Belittling those that hold these beliefs in whatever God they believe in is futile and childish frankly.

Ok so you don't believe, why do you feel THE need to tell everyone? Tongue

My eldest son doesn't want to go to church - he's 12. So, guess what? He doesn't go!! Adam - you really need to stop believing that everyone who believes in God also forces their beliefs on everyone else. I was working for my present employer for over a year before I happened to mention - in passing - that I was a christian. The biggest complement I got was 'Really? Well, I kinda thought you were.' This shows that I was/am living my life the way God wants me to (and also, because I have a mind of my own and I made a choice). It just so happens to be the way I want to live my life as well. I decided not to take drugs (and before you start with your pompuss 'Alcohol is a drug' I mean crack etc). I don't go shouting all over the place that people who take drugs (or believe in them) are stupid. That's their choice. It is my choice to belive in God. You need to remember, it was your stupid comment which 'started me off'. If you hadn't made that remark, I would have left you alone. What are your beliefs?
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« Reply #246 on: August 24, 2007, 10:11:36 PM »

Where in the Bible did God say do not do drugs ? or did he tell you personally.
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« Reply #247 on: August 24, 2007, 10:29:20 PM »

Where in the Bible did God say do not do drugs ? or did he tell you personally.
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I'm sure the walking on water bit involved drugs along the way. Wasn't someone stoned at some point? (I'm sure kinboshi can do much better than this).
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« Reply #248 on: August 24, 2007, 10:55:19 PM »

I'll try not to rush this because one wrong move will cause serious offense and as ever, that's honestly not my intention.

My PERSONAL belief is that there's no god and that it's no more plausible than believing in fairies or ghosts. I've always defended peoples right to believe whatever they like, regardless of how implausible it seems to me. However, recently I've been doing some 'sole searching' and have started to harden slightly in that respect. I've started taking on board the opinions of other atheists, starting with Dawkins and then watching atheist video blogs (as well as the religious video responses). As I said earlier, it seems odd to me how tolerant religions seem to be towards each other these days, but how angry atheists get people.

I don't do crack either. I also don't steal, murder, commit adultery,  assault people or judge people on the basis of skin colour or ethnicity. I manage all this without the guidance of a religion.

I don't believe all religious people force their beliefs on me, but the fact is, some do. Nones ever knocked on my door to tell me there's no god.

I have no problem with individual people because of their religious beliefs, any more than I do based on skin colour or ethnicity, but I do think they're mistaken and I strongly believe as a species we'd be better off without religion. I would never force my opinion on other people. we're discussing it here on blonde because that's what we do. We discuss all sorts of subjects in a safe environment. I'd never stand outside a church on a sunday with a banner saying "there is no god, now move your cars off the double yellows, I'm trying to get to the supermarket" however tempted I might be.

I'm sorry Rod thought my 'forgive me' post was trite but I'm forgiving of what I believe is peoples misjudged worshiping of idols. All I ask is the same forgiveness and tolerance from those that actually have it in their manual.

If god ever speaks to me, I promise, this will be the first place I'll come to testify.

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« Reply #249 on: August 24, 2007, 11:22:29 PM »

exactly the same sadly

as an atheist I sit back in mild amusement that not only do they believe in a silly god but their belief is so shallow that they'd deny it in order to get their child into a school to worship another silly god.

religion and schools should be seperate.

I agree with the separation of religion and education, but I do object to you quote of a 'silly god'. It is estimated that over 90% of the world believe in some form of God, so I dont think its right that you can/should discount it.

Darwins evoltion and hawkins big bang have as many holes in them as any form of religion, and require a leap of faith to have a belief. God is not silly, nor is a belief in God. As a intelligent person you should respect another persons beilef, this doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but you should always respect others and there beliefs.
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« Reply #250 on: August 24, 2007, 11:27:57 PM »

 
What if they believe that if they blow up a train full of people they will go straight to heaven.

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« Reply #251 on: August 24, 2007, 11:28:54 PM »

exactly the same sadly

as an atheist I sit back in mild amusement that not only do they believe in a silly god but their belief is so shallow that they'd deny it in order to get their child into a school to worship another silly god.

religion and schools should be seperate.

I agree with the separation of religion and education, but I do object to you quote of a 'silly god'. It is estimated that over 90% of the world believe in some form of God, so I dont think its right that you can/should discount it.

Darwins evoltion and hawkins big bang have as many holes in them as any form of religion, and require a leap of faith to have a belief. God is not silly, nor is a belief in God. As a intelligent person you should respect another persons beilef, this doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but you should always respect others and there beliefs.

better not start that one again. the evidence for evolution and the big bang are overwhelming. there is no evidence of god, only faith.

also, it's not Hawkins big bang
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« Reply #252 on: August 24, 2007, 11:37:31 PM »

exactly the same sadly

as an atheist I sit back in mild amusement that not only do they believe in a silly god but their belief is so shallow that they'd deny it in order to get their child into a school to worship another silly god.

religion and schools should be seperate.

I agree with the separation of religion and education, but I do object to you quote of a 'silly god'. It is estimated that over 90% of the world believe in some form of God, so I dont think its right that you can/should discount it.


The fact that 90% of the world believe something would make me less inclined to believe it, not more.
I don't think anyone's going to easily change your mind, waste of time trying really, on the God front. But I'm really interested to hear how you explain away the fossil record and your suggestions about the history of the cosmos.
I totally respect someone's right to believe whatever they want, but that doesn't preclude my right or inclination to tell them what they believe is a load of crap. I would expect them to do the same to me. In fact, I welcome it. I wish to be as delusion free as possible (as Noah would say).
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« Reply #253 on: August 24, 2007, 11:39:36 PM »

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« Reply #254 on: August 24, 2007, 11:41:47 PM »

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