Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[Colchester Kev]

'In poker' with Tikay and Compo tonight on sky 8.30 pm.

Thats a coincidence, its the same time as the blonde league game ... I hope you can all multitask

[DesD]

I'm surprised it's on that early what with tikay appearing between Compo's legs in the intro.

It troubles me, but Compo was on top...

[tikay]

I'm temporarily AWOL, back soon.

Talk amongst yourselves, please.

Back tomorrow, fingers crossed. Might be a big day tomorrow........

Miss you all.

[MANTIS01]

[ ] Obama insta-closing Guantánamo Bay isn't dream marketing

[ ] He did it for love

[X] I am cynical about politics

[Colchester Kev]

[ ] It will be insta closed
[ ] Saying "we need to work out how to DISPOSE of the detainees" was genius.

[kukushkin88]

He did it because it is 100% the right thing to do, any reasonable human being would do the same. The camp is a disgrace and totally contradicts everything America is meant to stand for. Removing it has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

[boldie]

He did it because it is 100% the right thing to do, any reasonable human being would do the same. The camp is a disgrace and totally contradicts everything America is meant to stand for. Removing it has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

This.

And I think it's rather refreshing to see a politician actually do what he promised he would do during the election.

[gatso]

blimey, a politician keeps his election promise and does something that every right thinking person in the world wants and you find a way to criticise. what will he have to do to make you happy?

[kukushkin88]

Cynical and very poorly informed is always a bad combination. To call this marketing shows a stunning lack of understanding. I can recommend some good books if you'd like to improve your knowledge of American politics.

[boldie]

Cynical and very poorly informed is always a bad combination. To call this marketing shows a stunning lack of understanding. I can recommend some good books if you'd like to improve your knowledge of American politics.

A beautiful post.

[MANTIS01]

Cynical and very poorly informed is always a bad combination. To call this marketing shows a stunning lack of understanding. I can recommend some good books if you'd like to improve your knowledge of American politics.

I read in a book that America armed Afghanistan then sent soldiers to die fighting vs those weapons. I dunno, I reckon if I was American and someone I loved died fighting in Afghanistan vs an American gun I would be pretty cynical about foreign policy. The battle for good message would feel a bit tarnished tbh. If you guys aren't cynical about politics then you're saying politicians are 100% straight, and that would be a very weird stance to take. Absolutely nobody would agree with you. If you don't trust politicians 100% then you have every right to be cynical. If you aren't cynical you are naive, and that is the reality of a limited knowledge imo.

He did it because it is 100% the right thing to do, any reasonable human being would do the same. The camp is a disgrace and totally contradicts everything America is meant to stand for. Removing it has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

Yep, that camp is such a disgrace they're gonna leave those lucky dudes in there for another year. But hey, we'll tell the press now cos it's a message of hope right? Let's see how this Obama dude gets on for real before we trust him absolutely. That's not a bad stance to take on politics in my ill-informed view.

[Wardonkey]

 If you guys aren't cynical about politics then you're saying politicians are 100% straight, and that would be a very weird stance to take. Absolutely nobody would agree with you. If you don't trust politicians 100% then you have every right to be cynical. If you aren't cynical you are naive, and that is the reality of a limited knowledge imo.

Codswallop.

[WarBwastard]

Cynical and very poorly informed is always a bad combination. To call this marketing shows a stunning lack of understanding. I can recommend some good books if you'd like to improve your knowledge of American politics.

I read in a book that America armed Afghanistan then sent soldiers to die fighting vs those weapons. I dunno, I reckon if I was American and someone I loved died fighting in Afghanistan vs an American gun I would be pretty cynical about foreign policy. The battle for good message would feel a bit tarnished tbh. If you guys aren't cynical about politics then you're saying politicians are 100% straight, and that would be a very weird stance to take. Absolutely nobody would agree with you. If you don't trust politicians 100% then you have every right to be cynical. If you aren't cynical you are naive, and that is the reality of a limited knowledge imo.

He did it because it is 100% the right thing to do, any reasonable human being would do the same. The camp is a disgrace and totally contradicts everything America is meant to stand for. Removing it has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

Yep, that camp is such a disgrace they're gonna leave those lucky dudes in there for another year. But hey, we'll tell the press now cos it's a message of hope right? Let's see how this Obama dude gets on for real before we trust him absolutely. That's not a bad stance to take on politics in my ill-informed view.

America armed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan when they were fighting Russia and Donald Rumsfeld who deserves his own extra fiery section of hell, met Saddam Hussein and armed the Iraqis when they were fighting Iran.  In both instances they ended up fighting the armies they had armed.  America has shot itself in the foot many times, literally and metaphorically with this kind of stuff, but those were all Republican Governments with ulterior-motives.

Barack Obama's whole motivation for running for the Presidency in the first place was to end this type of politics.  If you've read his books, one of which was written way before he had an interest in politics it becomes absolutely clear he is not a typical war mongering politician who's only motives for doing anything are for the financial gain of himself and his rich corporate friends.  Guantanamo Bay was just simply a humanitarian disgrace and it goes against everything he has ever stood for, prior to and during his political life.  He pledged during his campaign he would address the Iraq withdrawal and the closure of Guantanamo Bay and that's what he's doing.   

I don't think the man is a messiah who is going to change everything over-night.  I'm as cynical as the next man as far as political promises go, but it's clear that he is different and given the state of the world he deserves a bit of latitude in order to try and undo the gordian knot that Bush and Cheney have tied America in domestically and in their foreign affairs.  Dismissing everything he does because of Reagan's double standards and Bush's desperate attempts to finish the job his Dad started is pretty ignorant and if everybody felt as you do there would be no chance of Obama changing anything.  Given the state of the world I think you have to allow yourself to believe he can sort the various messes out because if you don't the consequences are a lot worse than the disappointment you'll feel if he turns out to be just another American politician.

[maccol]

'In poker' with Tikay and Compo tonight on sky 8.30 pm.

Nice to see you integrating the "YO" into your interviewing technique TK.   

[AlexMartin]

Cynical and very poorly informed is always a bad combination. To call this marketing shows a stunning lack of understanding. I can recommend some good books if you'd like to improve your knowledge of American politics.

nice of you to start posting more mate. ill have to come swansea soon, let me know when a decent tournament is on/ the bass are beginning to shoal.