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« Reply #16005 on: December 04, 2009, 06:21:53 PM »

Well, can truly say that it was nice to come home from work and read the last 8 pages.

More pics please, they are truly er... er .... vintage !
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« Reply #16006 on: December 04, 2009, 11:12:52 PM »

Forums are extremely efficient time-sponges - Ive wasted - spent - a whole day messing about on here, but it's been fun, & I should do it more I think. But I've not done a shred of work today, or not much, & now I'm guilt-ridden.

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« Reply #16007 on: December 05, 2009, 01:00:56 AM »

Tony is your cat available to give me a little HU coaching ?

I just blew a 5:1 CL 
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« Reply #16008 on: December 05, 2009, 09:57:17 AM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo
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« Reply #16009 on: December 05, 2009, 10:25:42 AM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo

Yeah, the quality of his posts has dropped quite a bit hasn't it? Wink
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« Reply #16010 on: December 05, 2009, 10:30:07 AM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo

Yeah, the quality of his posts has dropped quite a bit hasn't it? Wink

Lol,

Geo = glass half full kinda guy

Boldie = glass half empty kinda guy

How are you and Mrs B? not spoke for a while.

Geo
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« Reply #16011 on: December 05, 2009, 11:47:15 AM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo

Yeah, the quality of his posts has dropped quite a bit hasn't it? Wink

Lol,

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Boldie = glass half empty kinda guy

How are you and Mrs B? not spoke for a while.

Geo

Yeah, we're good mate. Mrs still wants to move house (apparently no longer to Fife but stay in the central area (Linlithgow etc.) so the house is still on the market..FML.

Maybe I'll be let out of the house one of these days and play some live poker somewhere. (j/k obv if she reads this ) If it doesn't clash with the racing I might actually want to leave the house and I'll buy you a beer then mate Smiley
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« Reply #16012 on: December 05, 2009, 11:57:44 AM »

Tikay - I've just read up on Robert Standish Sievier      .....     some life story!

If a film was made with that content for a fictional character, everyone would say it's too farfetched to be true!

Real life often puts a 'good story' to shame   ............
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« Reply #16013 on: December 05, 2009, 11:57:59 AM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo

Yeah, the quality of his posts has dropped quite a bit hasn't it? Wink

Lol,

Geo = glass half full kinda guy

Boldie = glass half empty kinda guy

How are you and Mrs B? not spoke for a while.

Geo

Yeah, we're good mate. Mrs still wants to move house (apparently no longer to Fife but stay in the central area (Linlithgow etc.) so the house is still on the market..FML.

Maybe I'll be let out of the house one of these days and play some live poker somewhere. (j/k obv if she reads this ) If it doesn't clash with the racing I might actually want to leave the house and I'll buy you a beer then mate Smiley

But don't hold your breath.
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« Reply #16014 on: December 05, 2009, 01:09:54 PM »

Tikay - I've just read up on Robert Standish Sievier      .....     some life story!

If a film was made with that content for a fictional character, everyone would say it's too farfetched to be true!

Real life often puts a 'good story' to shame   ............

I have 3 books on Sievier, one being a first edition of his Autobiography, & it's (allegedly) signed by the Man himself. Of all my antiquarian books, that is one of my favourites. Oddly, I later read 2 biographies of him which were much better written, but told a totally different story! He was a very convincing man, but a very crooked one.

Sceptre, well he trained that horse like no man ever trained a horse, giving her 4 mile gallops twice daily, & racing her in big races all over England & France. Remember, getting a horse to an "away" meet in those days was not easy. And she'd run two or three times at a single Meeting. I was never quite sure if he was a genius or an idiot when it came to training, but who else could produce a racemare who could do this?

In 1902, she ran a close second in the Lincolnshire Handicap in March, with RS having backed her to win £32,000. Note that (for non horse-racing peeps) Classic horses don't run in handicaps, especially in March - & deffo deffo deffo not carrying 6st 7lbs....

Weeks later, amazingly, she won the 2,000 Guineas, which is open to colts & fillies, but generally only Colts run in it. She was a filly. (In Horse Racing, pound for pound, colts or horses are better than fillies & mares by a few lbs). A near miracle. Two days later, guess what? She won the 1,000 Guineas! I'm not aware of any other filly that has done that double.

It's the same with the Derby & the Oaks - the former is for Colts (but fillies can run in it) & the latter for fillies only. She ran in the Derby, but  an interrupted preparation cost her dearly, & she "only" ran 5th, behind the legendary Ard Patrick. Two days later - yep, you got it - she ran in the Oaks. And won it cosily. (Or as Piggott might have said, "cothily"). So, three Classics already!

Next she went to Paris for the Grand Prix de Paris, (beaten), then to Royal Ascot (ran TWICE, 4th & 1st in the Coronation & St James Palace Stakes), Goodwood (ran twice, 4th in the Sussex Stakes, won the Nassau), then went to Donny and won the St Leger - her 4th Classic! - & ran again two days later in the Park Hill but was edged out.

Meanwhile, Sievier had been gambling recklessly (he used Sceptre as his main gambling medium, but backed anything & everything), & tried to sell her to raise funds. Nobody would buy her, of course, as Sievier had ruined her. To get out of the hole, he ran her in the Lincoln again the next March (carrying 9st 1lb now!) & there was a huge gamble on her, but she could only manage 5th.

Now, that is THE most remarkable story of a racehorse ever ever ever imo.

So when I say it pales into insignificance behind the tale of Robert, it says it all.

Interestingly, chat yesterday was about poker players who play poker well. Well, RS was a very gifted billiards player, (Billiards was THE game then, not snooker), & he gambled hugely on his prowess at the table in Gentlemens Clubs, & in fact, one such grim/gamble landed him in Court in a case against a member of the aristocracy.

Later he fled England for Australia, got up to his old tricks again (once a grimmer, always a grimmer), was soon in Prison, & then a murder went off for which he was the only suspect.

Subsequently, his life began to get more interesting.........

Of all the sporting tales, Ben Johnson, Tiger Woods, Babe Ruth, Ali, Gazza, Besty, Senna, da de da, none comes even close to Sceptre & Robert Standish Sievier.

I'll look out the author of the Bio about him, & the Title of the Book, & Post it here. Read it.
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« Reply #16015 on: December 05, 2009, 01:11:48 PM »

Tikay - I've just read up on Robert Standish Sievier      .....     some life story!

If a film was made with that content for a fictional character, everyone would say it's too farfetched to be true!

Real life often puts a 'good story' to shame   ............

So, as you suggest, "you could not make it up".

Who needs fiction, TV, or Cinema, when you can read stories like that?

Aye-up, gotta go, X-Factor's starting......
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« Reply #16016 on: December 05, 2009, 01:16:25 PM »


I guess the bookies will have all sorts of weird & wonderful "fun offers" on the World up, but I heard a cracker yesterday.

Bet on ANY Team (except England) to win the World Cup, & if England win it, they give you your money back!

I've been musing on the potential nuances of that all night. Fascinating what the bookies offer these days.

I bet someone tries to work an edge in that, somehow.
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« Reply #16017 on: December 05, 2009, 01:18:38 PM »

lol great pics those. Tony, you look younger now than in that picture too.

I love you Phil.

Sorry we never hooked up the other day, I'll reply to the PM soonest, bit of a backlog at the mo!
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« Reply #16018 on: December 05, 2009, 01:23:45 PM »


Lenton Abbey Ralph - on the A52 Priory roundabout. It's a Petrol Station/Office Block now. Used to be a Cinema before it was a snooker Club.

norr, I fail. you did play in bexleyheath back in the day though didn't you? or did I make that up?

Never played snooker in Bexleyheath, & I've tried very hard never to go anywhere near the dreadful place.

I've sussed where I got the idea from. you played poker at spiders in bexleyheath, albeit a lot more recently than that photo.

My word, what a memory you have! You are the anti-Cos.

You are right. In Bob The Butcher's spieler, & I won a £5k (I think) pot off Vic "Desperate Dan" Kanwar with a set of Jacks. Then had to find a way of getting the money out of the place. Entry & exit was gained via a flat-roof & an iron fire-escape staircase, at 5 in the morning, & Bob said "don't worry, come with me"........

try doing that in Amsterdam  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16019 on: December 05, 2009, 01:27:02 PM »

Tony,

don't hurry back..........................

If the last 8/9 pages are a guide to what we get every time you take a sabbatical, I can live with the pauasage.

Geo

Yeah, the quality of his posts has dropped quite a bit hasn't it? Wink

Lol,

Geo = glass half full kinda guy

Boldie = glass half empty kinda guy

How are you and Mrs B? not spoke for a while.

Geo

Yeah, we're good mate. Mrs still wants to move house (apparently no longer to Fife but stay in the central area (Linlithgow etc.) so the house is still on the market..FML.

Maybe I'll be let out of the house one of these days and play some live poker somewhere. (j/k obv if she reads this ) If it doesn't clash with the racing I might actually want to leave the house and I'll buy you a beer then mate Smiley

But don't hold your breath.

LOL..True...haven't been out to anything other than work and the bookies in ages (I love my life...well, other than the work bit)
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