Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[Bongo]

If you can get the HH into your browser then it shouldn't be too hard to write some scripts that process it all for you. Could probably whack it into a FF extension and have it all done automagically.

[tikay]

If you can get the HH into your browser then it shouldn't be too hard to write some scripts that process it all for you. Could probably whack it into a FF extension and have it all done automagically.

Yeah, that's what I did.

[mondatoo]

Hmm,I just had a look to see if there was any sats to tonight's £220 jobbie and I'm a bit confused to see there's a sat running on Nov 3rd with the following Description "This is a semi-final into the £8k Sky Sports Double Stack at 8pm on the 28th October. The final is limited to 50 players only and will be televised on Sky Sports 2. (1 player in 5 will win a seat) 4000 chips and 12 minute blinds!"

I take it there isn't any Sats on the day of the comp then ?

Have a word tikay  

[Bongo]

If you can get the HH into your browser then it shouldn't be too hard to write some scripts that process it all for you. Could probably whack it into a FF extension and have it all done automagically.

Yeah, that's what I did.

You just have the "presenters edition" of the software with full hand histories and a listing of how many sign ups each play produced.

[titaniumbean]

If you can get the HH into your browser then it shouldn't be too hard to write some scripts that process it all for you. Could probably whack it into a FF extension and have it all done automagically.

If sky hand histories were even vaguely consistent it would help!

Never seen so many different ways for people to post the blinds!

Also if a player doesn't put a chip in the pot their stack size isn't recorded so you have some incomplete information in some histories and hem hates that kinda thing!

[TheChipPrince]

Got a friend thats out in Cambodia at the mo, sent me this picture, quite a shocker.

[tikay]

Got a friend thats out in Cambodia at the mo, sent me this picture, quite a shocker.

Jeez, that's truly awful, assuming it's genuine.

We don't realise how good life has been to most of us, do we?

[Longy]

So heaven knows what will happen when the DC is fully released.

you should get a big leap in your numbers when HEM and PT become compatible with sky. playing without a HUD just feels wrong to me now. a bit like wondering around without your trousers on or something.

Possibly.

It's quite an interesting thought, actually, but I would imagine 95% of the existing player base have never heard of either, & would not wish to use such aids. It's a totally different market (at present), & they play for recreational reasons, supported by a very strong Community.

Who'd have thought, players playing poker to enjoy themselves?

I would add that I have never used either, & barely know what they are, but it does not impact upon my enjoyment of the game, or my admittedly modest profitablity. Different strokes, different folks, & all that.

Note the success of APAT when they focused on the smaller buy-in players, ditto DTD with the 900 runner £50 jobbie (could have easily filled 1,500 seats), & Sky Poker. It's where 99% of the poker market is, but these guys don't worry about HEM, PT, Rake, DC's, Staking, & all that stuff. They just want to play a bit of poker, have a bit of fun, without getting all addicted.

PS - I'm forbidden, when "on message" at SP, to use, when referring to Bet, Vegas (Online Slots), Bingo, or Poker, the term "addictive". The correct word is, of course, compelling. Compelling is nice, it's good, addictive is bad. Oh yes.

so at the moment you've got a load of recreational players throwing money at each other, you've said in the past that that is good for the site. many serious players would love to play those players on sky but the horrible software and lack of HEM puts them off. now you're improving the software (so the HUD companies should be able to get their SW working with it) and advertising on 2+2. so you get a bunch of good players taking all the money off the site no? not that i'm complaining, looks like sky will be the place to play. for a while at least

Not wishing to bring contention into the debate, but I've never believed that line, ever ever ever.

I see "ooh, the players are ALL complete & utter donks & fish, easy-peasy, I could rinse the lot of them, but I can't be bothered because the software is crap, so I'll carry on having to be staked with other peoples money so I can play against much tougher players" every day, somewhere. Not just about SP, but about all sorts of sites, It's part of poker folklore, like the Laddies River, or whatever. Poker players are not that daft, surely nobody swallows that nonsense?

They can win enough each week to live a balla life with no effort or stress, but prefer not to because the software is not to their liking? RAISE!

Think you are totally missing the point here Tikay.

The new players you may well see coming onto sky are all about £££. I often do rough calcs on where is the best place to play to optimise my earning rate.

Just because there are softer games on Sky doesn't mean it is the best place to play. HEM/PT (as well as other software) is very effective in making it easier to mass multitable. Therefore if I can play 16 tables on site A at 2bb/100 or play 4 table at 6bb/100 on sky I am going to play on site A.  This is not even taken into account the various kickbacks you get for playing on site A.

Anyway no need to worry about me coming onto Sky, unless the new roll out is going to involve 50 mttsng going off every hour.

[titaniumbean]

sky says whats a mttsng?!

lawl

[tikay]

So heaven knows what will happen when the DC is fully released.

you should get a big leap in your numbers when HEM and PT become compatible with sky. playing without a HUD just feels wrong to me now. a bit like wondering around without your trousers on or something.

Possibly.

It's quite an interesting thought, actually, but I would imagine 95% of the existing player base have never heard of either, & would not wish to use such aids. It's a totally different market (at present), & they play for recreational reasons, supported by a very strong Community.

Who'd have thought, players playing poker to enjoy themselves?

I would add that I have never used either, & barely know what they are, but it does not impact upon my enjoyment of the game, or my admittedly modest profitablity. Different strokes, different folks, & all that.

Note the success of APAT when they focused on the smaller buy-in players, ditto DTD with the 900 runner £50 jobbie (could have easily filled 1,500 seats), & Sky Poker. It's where 99% of the poker market is, but these guys don't worry about HEM, PT, Rake, DC's, Staking, & all that stuff. They just want to play a bit of poker, have a bit of fun, without getting all addicted.

PS - I'm forbidden, when "on message" at SP, to use, when referring to Bet, Vegas (Online Slots), Bingo, or Poker, the term "addictive". The correct word is, of course, compelling. Compelling is nice, it's good, addictive is bad. Oh yes.

so at the moment you've got a load of recreational players throwing money at each other, you've said in the past that that is good for the site. many serious players would love to play those players on sky but the horrible software and lack of HEM puts them off. now you're improving the software (so the HUD companies should be able to get their SW working with it) and advertising on 2+2. so you get a bunch of good players taking all the money off the site no? not that i'm complaining, looks like sky will be the place to play. for a while at least

Not wishing to bring contention into the debate, but I've never believed that line, ever ever ever.

I see "ooh, the players are ALL complete & utter donks & fish, easy-peasy, I could rinse the lot of them, but I can't be bothered because the software is crap, so I'll carry on having to be staked with other peoples money so I can play against much tougher players" every day, somewhere. Not just about SP, but about all sorts of sites, It's part of poker folklore, like the Laddies River, or whatever. Poker players are not that daft, surely nobody swallows that nonsense?

They can win enough each week to live a balla life with no effort or stress, but prefer not to because the software is not to their liking? RAISE!

Think you are totally missing the point here Tikay.

The new players you may well see coming onto sky are all about £££. I often do rough calcs on where is the best place to play to optimise my earning rate.

Just because there are softer games on Sky doesn't mean it is the best place to play. HEM/PT (as well as other software) is very effective in making it easier to mass multitable. Therefore if I can play 16 tables on site A at 2bb/100 or play 4 table at 6bb/100 on sky I am going to play on site A.  This is not even taken into account the various kickbacks you get for playing on site A.

Anyway no need to worry about me coming onto Sky, unless the new roll out is going to involve 50 mttsng going off every hour.

Yes, quite possibly, though maybe we both are. I take your point, though.

It's certainly NOT all things to all men, & nobody would suggest so. As a Client, I'm sure you are very valuable to some sites, but you are not exactly the sort of player who would be the Target Client next door though.

For now, I won't worry, for the reasons you suggest.

[tikay]

Hmm,I just had a look to see if there was any sats to tonight's £220 jobbie and I'm a bit confused to see there's a sat running on Nov 3rd with the following Description "This is a semi-final into the £8k Sky Sports Double Stack at 8pm on the 28th October. The final is limited to 50 players only and will be televised on Sky Sports 2. (1 player in 5 will win a seat) 4000 chips and 12 minute blinds!"

I take it there isn't any Sats on the day of the comp then ?

Have a word tikay  

Marv, typo ftw!

It looks like the template has not been reset.

There are daily Semis, with nightly "Finals" to this, but usually "on the day" there is one at about 5pm, which is not there today for whatever reason. (Error, I assume). I've sent a note Upstairs, & I'll get back to you. I'll reply to your PM soonest, but thank you for that, you are very kind.

[Boba Fett]

well i played a few HUSNGs on sky and by the time the table appeared on my screen the other guy had usually been stealing my blinds for a minute or two. kinda puts one off innit

Not wishing to bring contention into the debate, but I've never believed that line, ever ever ever.

I see "ooh, the players are ALL complete & utter donks & fish, easy-peasy, I could rinse the lot of them, but I can't be bothered because the software is crap, so I'll carry on having to be staked with other peoples money so I can play against much tougher players" every day, somewhere. Not just about SP, but about all sorts of sites, It's part of poker folklore, like the Laddies River, or whatever. Poker players are not that daft, surely nobody swallows that nonsense?

They can win enough each week to live a balla life with no effort or stress, but prefer not to because the software is not to their liking? RAISE!

The terrible software is the exact reason I didnt start playing semi regularly on Sky Poker.  I cashed in SPT Glasgow and, having seen the players, decided I would add their tourneys into my daily schedule despite the structure.  The 1st day I tried this I regged for around 8 tourneys, mostly £10-£20 turbos, 6 of them opened fine, 1 of them didnt open until the tourney had been running for over an hour and when it opened I had 4bbs left.  The final one opened around 20 mins after it had started and even then I was down to 15bbs already.  When talking to support they said it was my fault for not checking they had opened(amongst the 30 other MTTs I played that day that all opened normally) and that my laptop mustve been the problem and not their site.  However they did give me a refund on the tourney that opened 1 hour later(£10) as a "goodwill gesture".

A few days later I was playing £60 HU SNGs against, at a guess, one of the regs.  We played about 4 or 5 of them in a row clicking rematch after each one and things were going fine, and then on the 6th or 7th match I click on rematch and the game wont open for me, when I try to open it myself it says Im already there, I restart still cant get in.  By the time I get onto support the other guy has won the SNG by stealing my blinds, again I was told this must be a fault at my end because the other guy was able to connect and that I could not be refunded because Id already had a "goodwill gesture" refund.

So I think that the software does put a lot of people off despite the ability of the players on the site, I play on other sites with terrible software and have never had to worry about 1 of my MTTs just not opening up

Today, as an example, I'll be active across as many Poker Forums as I can, as tonight SP have their £220 Monthly Tourney on, so I need to raise awareness. The Tourney is simulcast live on Sky Sports, & will be analysed on TV by a most eminent Analyst. So I send the message "you can be on TV tonight" da de da, & I get that message on various poker forums, as well as all the usual social media platforms - FB, Twitter, etc.

There, you asked, & off I went. And I squeezed in a spam for tonight's big Tourney. George2Loose played it last month, was featured on TV, & very well he did, too.

He wasnt MickJenn was he??  GRRRRRRRRRRRRR 

[tikay]

In my youth, letters & stuff were what made our world work. Send a letter by Post, wait a week, get a reply. Now it's all so different, & "hard" Post is almost all spam.

I spent the whole of yesterday fielding e-Mails & stuff. Online.

Then from 7pm until Midnight playing poker. Online.

I started work at 6am today, online.

I paid my water rates this morning to STW (Gloucester). Online.

I booked a Hotel Room (Heathrow) online.

I purchased some theatre tickets (London) online.

I organised a wreath (Glasgow) online.

I checked my Bank Balance. Online.

Renewed my car insurance. Online

I sent an invoice to SP (Glasgow) online.

I work for a Company which is in Leeds. Online.

The Company ( & many, many others) does nothing BUT Online.

I am paid Online.

Has any invention in the last 200 years changed life as much as the Internet has?

What would the Ten Things that have most changed our life be?

The motor car engine, I suppose.

Radio & TV, almost certainly.

Telephones, deffo.

Internet.

Better (?) education.

Supermarkets

The Welfare State

Freedom of Movement for most nationalities within Europe, thus cross-migration.

The Airline Industry

NHS

What have I forgotten, & what should not be in that list? Are they all "net positives"?

[mondatoo]

Hmm,I just had a look to see if there was any sats to tonight's £220 jobbie and I'm a bit confused to see there's a sat running on Nov 3rd with the following Description "This is a semi-final into the £8k Sky Sports Double Stack at 8pm on the 28th October. The final is limited to 50 players only and will be televised on Sky Sports 2. (1 player in 5 will win a seat) 4000 chips and 12 minute blinds!"

I take it there isn't any Sats on the day of the comp then ?

Have a word tikay  

Marv, typo ftw!

It looks like the template has not been reset.

There are daily Semis, with nightly "Finals" to this, but usually "on the day" there is one at about 5pm, which is not there today for whatever reason. (Error, I assume). I've sent a note Upstairs, & I'll get back to you. I'll reply to your PM soonest, but thank you for that, you are very kind.

np,thanks.Do you play in the £200 comp as part of the show ?

[tikay]

Hmm,I just had a look to see if there was any sats to tonight's £220 jobbie and I'm a bit confused to see there's a sat running on Nov 3rd with the following Description "This is a semi-final into the £8k Sky Sports Double Stack at 8pm on the 28th October. The final is limited to 50 players only and will be televised on Sky Sports 2. (1 player in 5 will win a seat) 4000 chips and 12 minute blinds!"

I take it there isn't any Sats on the day of the comp then ?

Have a word tikay   

Marv, typo ftw!

It looks like the template has not been reset.

There are daily Semis, with nightly "Finals" to this, but usually "on the day" there is one at about 5pm, which is not there today for whatever reason. (Error, I assume). I've sent a note Upstairs, & I'll get back to you. I'll reply to your PM soonest, but thank you for that, you are very kind.

np,thanks.Do you play in the £200 comp as part of the show ?

Not tonight, as I am the Show Analyst - yes, I saw it described as the eminent one.... - but if I am not working, yes, I do, & I will be doing so in the November Renewal.

Tonight's value is represented by one Richard Orford. Get in.