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Tal
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 10:18:57 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
To settle a debate I had last night, when discussing "Terms & Conditions", which of these is the correct way to say it?
"T's & C's"
"T & C's"
I'm convinced it is the latter, but I can't exactly explain why.
normal usage is the former
terms and conditions not term and conditions
Yes. I wouldn't use the apostrophes, but it doesn't really matter.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 10:20:12 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
To settle a debate I had last night, when discussing "Terms & Conditions", which of these is the correct way to say it?
"T's & C's"
"T & C's"
I'm convinced it is the latter, but I can't exactly explain why.
normal usage is the former
terms and conditions not term and conditions
Normal, yes, but wrong, surely?
A set of Terms & Conditions is a single entity.
We are discussing that single entity.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 10:21:08 AM »
Oh bugger, Tighty & Tal both disagree with me.
Very unusual for them both to be wrong.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 10:21:08 AM »
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
To settle a debate I had last night, when discussing "Terms & Conditions", which of these is the correct way to say it?
"T's & C's"
"T & C's"
I'm convinced it is the latter, but I can't exactly explain why.
normal usage is the former
terms and conditions not term and conditions
Normal, yes, but wrong, surely?
A set of Terms & Conditions is a single entity.
We are discussing that single entity.
an example where general practice differs from what is correct, but became standard usage
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #40549 on:
December 10, 2014, 10:21:54 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:21:08 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
To settle a debate I had last night, when discussing "Terms & Conditions", which of these is the correct way to say it?
"T's & C's"
"T & C's"
I'm convinced it is the latter, but I can't exactly explain why.
normal usage is the former
terms and conditions not term and conditions
Normal, yes, but wrong, surely?
A set of Terms & Conditions is a single entity.
We are discussing that single entity.
an example where general practice differs from what is correct, but became standard usage
Perfect.
So it's wrong, but it's OK.
All
very fun
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Tal
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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Reply #40550 on:
December 10, 2014, 10:31:32 AM »
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 10:21:54 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:21:08 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on December 10, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
To settle a debate I had last night, when discussing "Terms & Conditions", which of these is the correct way to say it?
"T's & C's"
"T & C's"
I'm convinced it is the latter, but I can't exactly explain why.
normal usage is the former
terms and conditions not term and conditions
Normal, yes, but wrong, surely?
A set of Terms & Conditions is a single entity.
We are discussing that single entity.
an example where general practice differs from what is correct, but became standard usage
Perfect.
So it's wrong, but it's OK.
All
very fun
No. Terms is plural, so the abbreviation should logically do so, too. The abbreviation is the problem, as there's no real need to do so in speech, but we've chosen to do so and, having done so, it's spoken as "tees and sees apply"
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December 10, 2014, 10:40:04 AM »
Ridiculous.
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December 10, 2014, 10:56:33 AM »
Another thought - can't believe I'm biting BTW - is that the Terms of the contract and the conditions of sale are separate things, so they'd need to take their own plural.
Tess and Claudia are streets ahead of the Ant and Decs of this world
is fine because we treat them as a single entity: a double act
Are all the B&Q
s full on a Bank Holiday Monday?!
likewise
We're rounding up all the old music you have, so would you please bring in all your unwanted LPs and CDs?
needs two plurals.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 10:59:37 AM »
Quote from: Tal on December 10, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Another thought - can't believe I'm biting BTW -
is that the Terms of the contract and the conditions of sale are separate things, so they'd need to take their own plural.
Tess and Claudia are streets ahead of the Ant and Decs of this world
is fine because we treat them as a single entity: a double act
Are all the B&Q
s full on a Bank Holiday Monday?!
likewise
We're rounding up all the old music you have, so would you please bring in all your unwanted LPs and CDs?
needs two plurals.
I don't think they are though.
They (T & C's) are a group, a single grouping.
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Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary
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December 10, 2014, 11:01:37 AM »
Quote from: Tal on December 10, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Another thought - can't believe I'm biting BTW - is that the Terms of the contract and the conditions of sale are separate things, so they'd need to take their own plural.
Tess and Claudia are streets ahead of the Ant and Decs of this world
is fine because we treat them as a single entity: a double act
Are all the B&Q
s full on a Bank Holiday Monday?!
likewise
We're rounding up all the old music you have, so would you please bring in all your unwanted LPs and CDs?
needs two plurals.
What an excellent explanation. Even I understand now.
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I read a book once. Green it was.
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December 10, 2014, 11:05:24 AM »
Quote from: tikay on December 10, 2014, 09:12:19 AM
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I am still convinced that the correct plural of "buy in" is buys in.
Tal insisted that I was incorrect last time I raised the subject, although I really don't understand why anything other than the "buy" should be in the plural.
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I would have thought it was just T&Cs
No need for spaces or apostrophes
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