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« Reply #210 on: December 07, 2007, 03:54:12 PM »

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.



All Hatton fights are tear ups

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« Reply #211 on: December 07, 2007, 03:55:32 PM »

Mayweather was critical of Hatton, saying he doesn't have a jab - and that means he has no chance.  Hatton can box, he can fight behind the jab - he did so against Eamonn Magee when he was put on his backside.  In fact, he fought very well in that fight and showed he cna move to plan B when plan A doesn't work.  He's certainly not a one-dimensional brawler.

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« Reply #212 on: December 07, 2007, 04:00:33 PM »

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.



All Hatton fights are tear ups

myth

Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights).



You missed his cuddlefest with Urango I take it?

Had you said most I'd have agreed with you Wink

I don't think this will be a tear up either.  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 
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« Reply #213 on: December 07, 2007, 04:06:46 PM »

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.



All Hatton fights are tear ups

myth

Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights).



Ah you give up 3/4 of the way through his fights as well, eh?
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« Reply #214 on: December 07, 2007, 04:24:04 PM »

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.



All Hatton fights are tear ups

myth

Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights).



You missed his cuddlefest with Urango I take it?

Had you said most I'd have agreed with you Wink

I don't think this will be a tear up either.  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

I reckonthere will be a mild tear up in the first and probably again somewhere round the 5th when FM gets weary of getting mauled on the ropes and having his angles cut off to get away from the ropes.

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« Reply #215 on: December 07, 2007, 04:33:23 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)
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« Reply #216 on: December 07, 2007, 04:41:16 PM »

The more I think about this fight the more I struggle to think of a way Hatton can win this.

I can't see him stopping him as Hatton relies on accumulation of punches rather than KO punch.  Mayweather is very elusive and a defensive master so I can't see Hatton being able to exert the necessary pressure to put Mayweather in trouble.  Added to that Mayweather has been fighting the best around for years and has rarely been in trouble never mind stopped.

I also can't see him gaining a points win over Mayweather either.  His lack of head movement means he will have to eat Mayweather's jab all night long..the accumulation of these jabs could take their toll.  Mayweather is also adept at fighting on the inside, although I do think he will try and keep Hatton at range for the majority of the fight.  Mayweather is not a huge puncher at welter either but he is definetly not a "light puncher" which I often hear him described as, so I don't think Hatton will be able to keep walking through his punches all night long.

A late stoppage win (possibly on cuts) or comfortable points win for Mayweather.
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« Reply #217 on: December 07, 2007, 04:42:35 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.
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« Reply #218 on: December 07, 2007, 04:49:20 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating.

there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before.

hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it.
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« Reply #219 on: December 07, 2007, 04:58:00 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference.

Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all

He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation.

Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble

It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza.
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« Reply #220 on: December 07, 2007, 05:02:01 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating.

there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before.

hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it.

Hardly granite if Collazo can have him rocking and rolling.
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« Reply #221 on: December 07, 2007, 05:10:36 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference.

Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all

He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation.

Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble

It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza.


Merely trying to look at the fight objectively.

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« Reply #222 on: December 07, 2007, 05:36:44 PM »

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating.

there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before.

hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it.

Hardly granite if Collazo can have him rocking and rolling.

that fight was not rickys best, in preperation or execution.

He took several shots square on the chin from the hardest puncher in these divisions and only one gave him any trouble and that was for a split second.

  Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. 

No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't

Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs)

We shall see.

Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you.

the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference.

Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all

He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation.

Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble

It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza.


Merely trying to look at the fight objectively.



 i know that FM is a great fighter but saturday night won't be half as much fun if i haven't got any hope for our man winning, hence trying to see where his advantage lies.
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« Reply #223 on: December 07, 2007, 05:53:41 PM »

I should add that I will be more than happy to admit I got it wrong if Hatton pulls off one of the greatest achievements ever by a British sportsman.
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« Reply #224 on: December 07, 2007, 10:19:09 PM »

Phenomenal  atmosphere....and thats just for the weigh in 
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