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« on: July 29, 2007, 05:14:16 PM »

Are double chance freezeouts actually any better? I'm actually a bigger fan of a straight freezeout. Which do you prefer and why?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2007, 05:16:38 PM »

i prefer the straight freezeout but the double chance has the abilty to prolong the game for that person that drives 100 miles to a game and gets there aces cracked 1st hand thus making them more likely to drive that 100 miles
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2007, 05:29:23 PM »

i prefer the straight freezeout but the double chance has the abilty to prolong the game for that person that drives 100 miles to a game and gets there aces cracked 1st hand thus making them more likely to drive that 100 miles

Not if you take the double chance straight away, and get busted by someone else who took their double chance straight away aswell  Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2007, 05:32:25 PM »

i prefer the straight freezeout but the double chance has the abilty to prolong the game for that person that drives 100 miles to a game and gets there aces cracked 1st hand thus making them more likely to drive that 100 miles

Not if you take the double chance straight away, and get busted by someone else who took their double chance straight away aswell  Tongue

That'd be your own fault for taking it straight away.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2007, 05:33:46 PM »

i prefer the straight freezeout but the double chance has the abilty to prolong the game for that person that drives 100 miles to a game and gets there aces cracked 1st hand thus making them more likely to drive that 100 miles

You'd still be able to start your journey home after the second hand.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2007, 05:36:38 PM »

are they better   than what    exactly??

any freeze  should be a minimum    £100  buy in   imo.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2007, 05:36:56 PM »

I played in one at the new Coventry casino (fantastic venue  by the way), and I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind the double-chance structure they had.

Two 45-minute levels, during which the additional 3,000 chips could be added to the 3,000 you started with at any time.  Then after these two levels, anyone who hadn't had their second 3,000 could have them then.  So now it's a standard freezeout, but now with 20-minute levels.

So plenty of poker during the first two levels, and then as the blinds go up to a significant amount compared to stack sizes, the amount of 'poker' is reduced. 

Is it to make sure that anyone playing is pretty much guaranteed at least 90 minutes of poker (give or take)?  Would make more sense to me to have the longer levels after the double-chance rather than when the blinds are very small compared to stack sizes.  Or am I missing something?

Also, why would you not take the additional chips straight away?  Surely you don't want to be short-stacked when you're trying to accumulate chips?
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2007, 05:41:34 PM »

I don't mind the double chance tourneys.  I'm not fussed either way in which I prefer but I do like the 'free rebuy' so you can mix it up a bit to start with, then if things get a bit low, just get the extra chips.  I appreciate however if it's a 2000 double chance, then the freezeout equivalent would probably a 4k freezeout so there's no difference.

I played in one a few weeks ago and in the very first hand I doubled up off a guy that had only ever played poker before on the PSP!
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2007, 05:53:06 PM »

I like double-chance because it does add some element of strategy to the game.

I wouldn't say that I favour it over a straight freezeout, but I enjoy them as a bit of variety.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2007, 06:21:47 PM »

I like double-chance because it does add some element of strategy to the game.

I wouldn't say that I favour it over a straight freezeout, but I enjoy them as a bit of variety.

Me too - they add an extra strategic dimension to the game. "Shall I take it now?" is an equation that depnds on what the others do to some extent.

I used to play much looser with the first tranche, & if things went awry, then take the second tranche & revert to grind mode. I enjoy them a lot, but I suspect the big boys would think that it gives an advantage to us mere mortals, in that we ge two chances, as it were. Maybe thats how they get their name......

Of late, I've been taking the full stack straight away, regardless, as it gives me more "play" options, but I guess it's as broad as it is long.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2007, 06:26:10 PM »

are they better   than what    exactly??

any freeze  should be a minimum    £100  buy in   imo.

That's an interesting Post Porty. Why do you think those that cannot afford £100 are not entitled or able to play Freezeouts for £10, £20 or £50?
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2007, 06:35:22 PM »

are they better   than what    exactly??

any freeze  should be a minimum    £100  buy in   imo.

That's an interesting Post Porty. Why do you think those that cannot afford £100 are not entitled or able to play Freezeouts for £10, £20 or £50?

Or even that area's can support tourns of that price only. I think you'd find the number of games drying up pretty quickly.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2007, 06:47:50 PM »

There is a lack of Low freezouts as there is never mind people suggesting to get rid of them... Everywhere i see and there are 3 casinos in liverpool only offer re-buys, and for the less fortunate of us with a smaller poker budget you cant compete most of the time with people who are happy to chuck tenner after tenner to collect chips, £100 freezeouts are only going to lessen the amount people play.

Saying that, why they dont have more tounrnaments that start a bit earlier on school nights i never know... Maybe im talking locally, but it annoys the a*** off me.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2007, 07:02:03 PM »

Every Tuesday night around 130 people turn out to the cardrooms in Stoke to play either a straight £20 F/O at the circus or a £20 double chance F/O at the grosvenor.

Both have a chip allocation of 8k. Grosv's does 4+4 or 8 and the circus does straight 8k.

So if you like low budget F/O's head to stoke.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2007, 07:05:04 PM »

Saying that, why they dont have more tounrnaments that start a bit earlier on school nights i never know... Maybe im talking locally, but it annoys the a*** off me.

This is especially true of the smaller buy-in tournaments.  The people who are playing are obviously recreational players - so why not consider their needs?  Again, I don't think that poker generates a huge revenue for the casinos, and so the needs of the players are probably secondary.
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