APAT Season Two Sponsorship

[tikay]

But you have in effect been sponsored by Grosvenor/blue sq. So how are the other chains reacting to this? Will Gala/stanleys get involved in an association (when it comes around to it) that is sponsored by Blue Sq? Will Gala or Stanleys hold events and give GUKPT seats out etc with flyers for Blue Sq all over their cardrooms??

Rich.  

The Association is not sponsored by Blue Square, APAT's own tour is.  Gala have been positive about continuing to hold APAT events and wide ranging discussions are taking place with the board of directors at Gala Casinos. You will understand that I cannot go into the specifics here, but there is a vision that APAT are working to deliver and I do not believe that any organisation has been as close to jointly engaging Grosvenor and Gala, as APAT currently is.  As mentioned above, it is very sensitive, so progress is slow and deliberate.  In the interim, where we have time, we will continue to field the odd brick from the crowd.

Regards,

Des.

As Des suggests, we need to be a little discrete right now. But for the aviodance of doubt, we have the absolute right to go to Non-Grosvenor's, and it's likely that we will. Naturally, for Season Two, we will use Grosvenor's for the vast majority of Events, but the door remains open to other Venues, Majors & Independents alike, including DTD, as I said earlier.

As has been said many times, Des is some tough guy to negotiate with, & he's secured exactly the Season Two deal we needed to be able continue APAT's growing influence in UK Amateur Poker.

[ifm]

In the interim, where we have time, we will continue to field the odd brick from the crowd.

It's the mob with the torches and pitchforks you should be wary of

Seriously though why take that attitude when genuine questions are asked, IT'S NOT PERSONAL!!!

[dik9]

The Association is not sponsored by Blue Square, APAT's own tour is.  Gala have been positive about continuing to hold APAT events and wide ranging discussions are taking place with the board of directors at Gala Casinos. You will understand that I cannot go into the specifics here, but there is a vision that APAT are working to deliver and I do not believe that any organisation has been as close to jointly engaging Grosvenor and Gala, as APAT currently is.  As mentioned above, it is very sensitive, so progress is slow and deliberate.  In the interim, where we have time, we will continue to field the odd brick from the crowd.

Is The Amatuer Poker Association and Tour sponsored by Blue Sq ?
Or Just the Amatuer Poker Tour ??

Have you just used the word Association as an attraction? Association has a number of meanings, but I believe the standard association being used in this manner = From Wikipedia

A professional body or professional organisation, also known as a professional association or professional society, is an organisation, usually non-profit, that exists to further a particular profession, to protect both the public interest and the interests of professionals. The balance between these two may be a matter of opinion. On the one hand, professional bodies may act to protect the public by maintaining and enforcing standards of training and ethics in their profession. On the other hand, they may also act like a cartel or a labor union (trade union) for the members of the profession, though this description is commonly rejected by the body concerned.

So as Tikay says

Amateur poker players now have a body, & a say in things, & can vote for change in APAT Elections & APAT Committees, which have been announced elsewhere.

WTF are they having their say in? Electing people? Any ballots about changing structures and rules etc or is their power limited to electing people and committees?

As Des suggests, we need to be a little discrete right now

WHY? For the members sake or the casinos sake? Or for us brick throwers, that want to see things being done?

APAT ran an event in Broadway, they have now changed to move the shortstack because they think it is fairer, is this APAT's influence, I don't think so. Have APAT's members been asked if they think this is right? Have APAT members ever voted on anything like this? Did they not join up to have their say to the committe who would in turn, stress their opinion to said casino about rule, be it for or against.

[ifm]

OOerrr

***stands aside leaps out of the way***

[dik9]

Might see me in the BB Banned house soon

[ifm]

Might see me in the BB Banned house soon

2 sugars

[dik9]

3 please, need any ciggies brought in?

[ifm]

3 please, need any ciggies brought in?

Bottle of JD would be better, Bolts doing my head in

[KingPoker]

The Association is not sponsored by Blue Square, APAT's own tour is.  Gala have been positive about continuing to hold APAT events and wide ranging discussions are taking place with the board of directors at Gala Casinos. You will understand that I cannot go into the specifics here, but there is a vision that APAT are working to deliver and I do not believe that any organisation has been as close to jointly engaging Grosvenor and Gala, as APAT currently is.  As mentioned above, it is very sensitive, so progress is slow and deliberate.  In the interim, where we have time, we will continue to field the odd brick from the crowd.

Is The Amatuer Poker Association and Tour sponsored by Blue Sq ?
Or Just the Amatuer Poker Tour ??

Have you just used the word Association as an attraction? Association has a number of meanings, but I believe the standard association being used in this manner = From Wikipedia

A professional body or professional organisation, also known as a professional association or professional society, is an organisation, usually non-profit, that exists to further a particular profession, to protect both the public interest and the interests of professionals. The balance between these two may be a matter of opinion. On the one hand, professional bodies may act to protect the public by maintaining and enforcing standards of training and ethics in their profession. On the other hand, they may also act like a cartel or a labor union (trade union) for the members of the profession, though this description is commonly rejected by the body concerned.

So as Tikay says

Amateur poker players now have a body, & a say in things, & can vote for change in APAT Elections & APAT Committees, which have been announced elsewhere.

WTF are they having their say in? Electing people? Any ballots about changing structures and rules etc or is their power limited to electing people and committees?

As Des suggests, we need to be a little discrete right now

WHY? For the members sake or the casinos sake? Or for us brick throwers, that want to see things being done?

APAT ran an event in Broadway, they have now changed to move the shortstack because they think it is fairer, is this APAT's influence, I don't think so. Have APAT's members been asked if they think this is right? Have APAT members ever voted on anything like this? Did they not join up to have their say to the committe who would in turn, stress their opinion to said casino about rule, be it for or against.

FFS you paid a FIVER to play in juice free games, stop fucking ranting and just roll with it, complain if it doesnt work out at the end of season 2 but what you hope to achieve by just blabbing on?

[mickyp]

The Association is not sponsored by Blue Square, APAT's own tour is.  Gala have been positive about continuing to hold APAT events and wide ranging discussions are taking place with the board of directors at Gala Casinos. You will understand that I cannot go into the specifics here, but there is a vision that APAT are working to deliver and I do not believe that any organisation has been as close to jointly engaging Grosvenor and Gala, as APAT currently is.  As mentioned above, it is very sensitive, so progress is slow and deliberate.  In the interim, where we have time, we will continue to field the odd brick from the crowd.

Is The Amatuer Poker Association and Tour sponsored by Blue Sq ?
Or Just the Amatuer Poker Tour ??

Have you just used the word Association as an attraction? Association has a number of meanings, but I believe the standard association being used in this manner = From Wikipedia

A professional body or professional organisation, also known as a professional association or professional society, is an organisation, usually non-profit, that exists to further a particular profession, to protect both the public interest and the interests of professionals. The balance between these two may be a matter of opinion. On the one hand, professional bodies may act to protect the public by maintaining and enforcing standards of training and ethics in their profession. On the other hand, they may also act like a cartel or a labor union (trade union) for the members of the profession, though this description is commonly rejected by the body concerned.

So as Tikay says

Amateur poker players now have a body, & a say in things, & can vote for change in APAT Elections & APAT Committees, which have been announced elsewhere.

WTF are they having their say in? Electing people? Any ballots about changing structures and rules etc or is their power limited to electing people and committees?

As Des suggests, we need to be a little discrete right now

WHY? For the members sake or the casinos sake? Or for us brick throwers, that want to see things being done?

APAT ran an event in Broadway, they have now changed to move the shortstack because they think it is fairer, is this APAT's influence, I don't think so. Have APAT's members been asked if they think this is right? Have APAT members ever voted on anything like this? Did they not join up to have their say to the committe who would in turn, stress their opinion to said casino about rule, be it for or against.

FFS you paid a FIVER to play in juice free games, stop fucking ranting and just roll with it, complain if it doesnt work out at the end of season 2 but what you hope to achieve by just blabbing on?

I agree

[dik9]

Worse than that guys I paid F*** A** I am a Tournament Director, whos only interest is the association NOT the tour, but thanks for the comments

The TOUR is excellent value and I am not criticising that in any way shape or form, it is simply fantastic.

What I am hoping to acheive by blabbing on is that the freakin ASSOCIATION that this professes to be has not materialised as of yet, in fact there is no sign of it.

[kinboshi]

I'm sure it's been said - but I think the plan is to get the tour established, and then from that position the association will have more strength.

So maybe some patience, and in time the association aspect will come to the fore?

[mickyp]

Sorry had to go for my tea there and did'nt have a chanace to add further comments there.
This time last year i had never been in a casino in my life(due to staying in the middle of nowhere).After joining apat i had the oppertunity to have my first live experience.
Are the tournaments value , after you add in your exspensives,simple if you cant afford it dont go.Are blonde bashe's value ?
I'm not saying season 2 is faultless by any mean's but what they have achieved in such a relatively short space of time is good enough for me.

[dik9]

Seasons 1 TOUR was Great
Season 2's TOUR Looks Better

NO DISPUTE

 

The Title is Amatuer POKER ASSOCIATION and tour 

[kinboshi]

Seasons 1 TOUR was Great
Season 2's TOUR Looks Better

NO DISPUTE

 

The Title is Amatuer POKER ASSOCIATION and tour 

I'm sure it's been said - but I think the plan is to get the tour established, and then from that position the association will have more strength.

So maybe some patience, and in time the association aspect will come to the fore?