According to Paradise 8% of their poker players are winners

[TightEnd]

I've just met the people from Sportingbet, the owners of Paradise Poker


In the course of the meeting they made the following statement

"8% of our poker players are winners"

This got me to thinking...how does this compare to the Blonde membership?

I've put a poll up and I want honest responses....are you a winner in online poker over the last twelve months? It's anonymous, so please answer honestly.

I would expect us to beat 8% (if you want to spend time on forums like this or read books etc and try an improve I would say we would have an above average standard for whatever level or type of game we play in)

 

[Robert HM]

Only just seeing a profit recently I have to say I am behind over the year

[AdamM]

my first profitable year online. always done much better live before.

[M3boy]

My worst year online, and until 2 months ago was behind quite alot! (Not counting the WPT and Heads up seats won)

Now turning a profit on the year, and still 2.5 months to go

[winkie]

Doing much better online than live...

Started the year only really playing on Ladbrokes, but during the year I've also played regularly on Blue Square and more recently on Full Tilt.

I'm winning online, but losing in live games. My live tourney play at the moment is horrible (just going through a bad patch of form).

[Kaibobble]

Hmm i have noticed with paradise you seem to go on a terrible losing spree when ever you cash money out

[TightEnd]

I can never get both working at the same time...I made money online Jan-June and lost live, the reverse July-September and now October I'm up online and losing live


I cannot for the life of me figure out why I can't get both working together

[owner]

M3boy raises an interesting point there about winning seats.  I play a lot of online sats. to both live games and bigger tourneys, but how do you factor those into any P/L ?  If I win a seat into the stars $500 biggy for $70 and then don't cash in the tourney am I $430 in profit ?  Account still says I am $70 down.

[TightEnd]

Paradise would account for this as loss. Actually more accurately they would not add it to people's profit figures. In fact I would say it is profit.

[Pokerron]

Unless you were planning to buy in for full amount if you didnt win sat' I'd say it doesnt count.  

[Nakor]

My best year online, and the last 12 months has seen me up even though I had a six week hole in which I never found a hand.
And like some of you to mirror this my Live results have been poor, and sees me down for the same period.
Why does it work that way?

[luckyblind]

I count seats as a profit then subtract them when I play the event. Either way it is only a profit if you cash in the main event.

My results have been static for the last 6 months. I started well and then have barely cleared a profit over rest of the year. Mostly due to taking a few shots at bigger events and trying new games / cash game levels. The other reason is I never seem to find the time for a consistent bash at any of the grinding in cash or STT's. The majority of play is now when I am working in the shop and I cant risk multi tabling or higher stakes as customers have to come first.

However if you count everthing I do that is poker related then I am a winner through selling poker gear in the shops and running tournaments 

[dan]

ive ticked that im a winner mainly because my 2 biggest wins have been big satellites. 1 was a 12k package to the wsop and the other a 10k package to st kitts. ive also won cash multis and have a good return in stt (6paks). i didnt cash at the wsop but i dont see that as a loss of the money i put into it

[Jeff D]

Haven't had a losing year live for quite a while, however, I'm doing my b*****ks online. Can't explain it, but there could be a correlation with the amount of red wine consumed!

[Pokerron]

I count seats as a profit then subtract them when I play the event. Either way it is only a profit if you cash in the main event.

If I win a $500 seat through a $25 sng I would class the main event as a $25 event for my records.  if I dont win a seat, I record the sng as the $25 loss it is.