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Question: If you were given the choice in a non casino €250 FO of having a 25 min clock with dealers or a 40 minute clock without dealers until the bubble and a smaller reg fee which would you go for?
25 min clock and dealers all the way through - 19 (67.9%)
40 min clock and dealers from the bubble in with a smaller reg fee. - 9 (32.1%)
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« on: October 18, 2005, 04:55:19 PM »

Please vote on this one as I am running a €250 Freezeout in early December in a hotel just outside Dublin. It can be run as a 40 min clock event without dealers until the bubble time with a 10% reg fee or with dealers and a 25 min clock but the reg fee would be 15%.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 04:59:04 PM »

Of course i would prefer 250 with 40 min clocks i would go for 25mins and dealers. You wil get about the same number of hands and less hassle!
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 05:01:58 PM »

Yeah, its "either" "or" situation

Long clock preferred, but with dealers as James says, you will probably get as many hands with the shorter clock.

How about the dealers with 25 min clock, but then 40 min clock once past the bubble??? TOP IDEA
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 05:04:50 PM »

I'd go with dealers every time. i virtually stopped going to grosvenor salford when it went self deal and more often than not if i ever do go back i end up dealing myself just to keep things moving quickly and to try and avoid arguements. This means sometimes however i'm concentrating too much on getting the dealing and pots right instead of concentrating on my opponents Sad
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 05:58:01 PM »

Dealers for sure, so annoying when you have the most favoured position but have to concentrate on dealing / running the game when you should be raising and betting crazily.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 09:03:47 PM »


The main problem with "player dealers" is that if a situation occurs where you need to give a ruling

You will not have an impartial observer to give an overview as would you with non-playing dealers.

IMHO naturally
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2005, 01:00:12 PM »

Depends on the standard of dealer... You get some pretty useless ones in Stanleys in glasgow. Appalling. I could do better with one hand behind my back.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2005, 01:54:13 PM »

Really? I thought you had to do a course to be a dealer and get some sort of certificate. Should provide a decent standard all round
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2005, 01:59:08 PM »

When I was in Vegas I was playing in a day time tourney at the Plaza, and they auditioned a few dealers at the table I was at.

They knew what they were doing, but they were so nervous, and so new at what they were doing that it was painfull to watch.

I can imagine that it takes a while to get into your stride when dealing, and a flawless dealer is one you don't notice, you only notice the mistakes.

To contribute to the thread - I'd pay extra to have house dealers every time. I don't play as much live as I would like to because most comps under 100 quid are self dealt (one of the reasons I am gagging to get over to Reigate).

I hate self deal - I can do the deal, and the pots, but I am pants at the shuffle.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2005, 04:08:41 PM »

I'm the opposite. Not nervous at all in the dealer seat, can shuffle with the best of them. But does my A level maths and a degree in computer science help me to count 8 different all ins at a £5 bingo rebuy night? Does it buggery!
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2005, 04:21:11 PM »

Really? I thought you had to do a course to be a dealer and get some sort of certificate. Should provide a decent standard all round

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 04:27:33 PM »


I hate self deal - I can do the deal, and the pots, but I am pants at the shuffle.

I'm the opposite. Not nervous at all in the dealer seat, can shuffle with the best of them. But does my A level maths and a degree in computer science help me to count 8 different all ins at a £5 bingo rebuy night? Does it buggery!

being a multi lingual monkey i can just about cope with both (and the occasional threat to watch myself in the car park afterwards Shocked) its missing so much vital information my opponents give off because i'm too busy dealing the cards on the flop instead of watching my opponents watching someone dealing a flop (if that makes sense Smiley)
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2005, 04:29:50 PM »

the way i was taught you start off dealing in the casino on the floor dealing roulette and blackjack you then as move on to a couple of other games then i went into the cardroom as i enjoyed playing poker and started dealing. However some of the dealers in the card room dont play poker so when they were taught they were shown something completely alien to them. So the generally bad or very nervous dealers have never played the game so it is a lot harder i would imagine.
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