How to cock up alternates and late entries? a case study

[TightEnd]

So many new things to be worked out I think it will be some time before it all settles down...........Just a shame that I wasn't there to object just for the sport lol

you would have been in your sporting element

[RioRodent]

So many new things to be worked out I think it will be some time before it all settles down...........Just a shame that I wasn't there to object just for the sport lol

I'm sure you're right... but this is the introduction of the 2005 Gaming Act. It's not like all the changes where concealed in a sealed envelope "NOT TO BE OPENED UNTIL MIDNIGHT 31/08/07"... they have had something like 2 years to gear-up for the changes.

[englishrose]

with late entries once the number of tables is sorted out at the start they can add players to those tables but they cannot add more tables

once they decided to player 3 tables of 8 rather than 4 tables of 6 they cannot pull players off a table to add more players

they cannot even add another table if there are 11 players waiting to join as alternates

this is incorrect. On Sat 1st September they created a new table of 8 during the first level.

No it is correct, the only reason a table was opened that day is because it was the first day of the new rules, and a gaming manager (non cardroom) made the decision to open the table.It is a lot easier to explain to the GM that you have broken the rules on day 1.It is much harder now.

[TightEnd]

but I feel the rule is wrong, not a Luton complaint but addressed to Grosvenor Head office really.

I hope representations are made to change it

[englishrose]

These rules are new and we are learning more each day.It is however difficult to keep everyone happy.Do we start with 5/6 to a table,so we can add alternates as they arrive but make the players that are seated play short handed, or do we start with 7/8 to a table so the players still get a decent game and have a small number of seats available.
I am asking for your opinion as to which you would prefere if you are there on time and playing.


ALL THE COMPERTITIONS REGISRATIONS NOW CLOSE 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE START TIME, EVEN IF YOU ARE QUEUEING TO ENTER.

 

[TightEnd]

got to err on the side of caution and start short handed, in advance of say 10-15 late entries which you have begun to get

if the late entries don't show you can easily break a table


With regard to closing registration ten minutes before the start, this needs to go up in the cardroom. Not a single player knew (hence the many sitting finishing their meal when you closed it ) this and the many not on blonde still won't have a clue


Communication issues need to be addressed.

[Snatiramas]

but then what would we whinge about

[englishrose]

i WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANKYOU TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE RULE CHANGES, AND HAVE HUNG AROUND TO HOPEFULLY GET A SEAT AND I PROMISE IT WILL GET BETTER.

MANY THANKS LUV NINA.XXXXXXXXXX

[TightEnd]

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we'll never be short of whinge subjects!

[englishrose]

A NOTICE WAS PUT UP LAST NIGHT ON THE DESK SHOWING THE REGISTRATION CLOSE TIME.

[TightEnd]

NO ONE SAW IT 

Certainly not the players who hadn't been into the card-room before 8.20pm as they were in the restaurant

[Snatiramas]

your shirts

your shoes

your jokes

tom myland

danish

the food


we'll never be short of whinge subjects!

fair point

[Nick Peters]

Just reading through the threads, the card-room applied their new rules correctly with reference to not opening a new table after registration had closed.

I would say though, I would not have gone 11 handed for any reason and would always attempt to set up 8 and 9 handed for all competitions. The comp could then close registration and start on time.

There is no Guideline 3 anymore. This gives the casino the opportunity to use the new rules where appropriate.

[englishrose]

We put the notice up before we went home ready for today.

thankyou nick for your feedback, you are right in what you say and with hindsight i would never set up 11 handed but the TD done what he thought was best at the time.Guideline 3 has gone but headoffice has not and we are set rules that are sometimes hard to run the room on, as they fail to add common sense.

[TightEnd]

Its easy to criticise with hindsight, and I know the decisions made were done so in good faith.

I just hope the powers that be in Head Office do allow you guys to use some common sense and show some flexibility.

No customer really likes to hear and I paraphrase...well we would but Head Office says no...its indicative of an organisation that is hidebound by rules and not that customer facing