A Couple O' Jocks in Paris!

[taximan007]

IF i were Scottish I would be very proud, not only of the teams achievement (beating France twice is no mean feat), but also of the way the fans conducted themselves, prior, during and after the match.

A great day for Scottish Football, A great day for Scotland.

Enjoy it.

[cambo]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

   

[Robert HM]

Deep breathes all around.

[Bazzaboy]

ano was funny when mcgeady was quoted in the paper saying he was fed up with abuse he gets all over scotland cos he chose to play for ireland. what does he expect? he was born in kingspark fs! fair enough if u cant get a game for ur own country... but to be born here and decide to play elewhere? deserves all the abuse he gets and more

Get your facts right Cambo, McGeady picked Ireland cos Scotland didn't pick him at all for years for the schoolboys despite him being one of the best players in the country at his age.

Ireland gave him a chance & he took it, Scotland then tried to get him back when he made the Celtic 1st team, they messed it up big time.

Its just the usual ignorant bigots who give him abuse.

I'd suggest you get your own facts right too.  McGeady represented the Scottish national side until under 15s and played for the Scottish schoolboys until he joined Celtic. Now I'm not sure if the rule still exists but at the time to play for Scottish schoolboys you had to be registered with a Schoolboys team, Celtic didn't allow this (ie once you signed for Celtic you were not allowed to play for your school) and thus he couldn't play for Scottish Schoolboys.  A bit different from Scotland not picking him I think you will agree. All Celtic youngsters were in the same boat.  ROI were alerted to his eligibility and made an approach for him (their rules didn't require players to be registered with a Schoolboys team).  He has played for them ever since.

As for the ill-feeling towards him I'd suggest a lot of that is due to his initial press interview (circa 2002) where he cited as one of his reasons for opting to play for ROI was that he believed he had a better chance of playing at World Cups and European Championships.  At the time McGeady was being hailed as a wonderkid and the Scottish national side were struggling badly, thus the "traitor" stuff started.

McGeady was quite a unique case (for the home nations at least) in that he opted not to play for the country of his birth despite them being desperate for him to do so.  Others who jumped ship (eg Elliot, Hutchison, Sullivan, McEveley) did so because they knew they had no hope of being capped by "their own country".  This is why McGeady is singled out for abuse imo.

[Teacake]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

 
LOL, that was actually pretty funny but I think you've got a pretty high opinion of yourself as I usually just ignore your posts 

You're wide of the mark though no collusionments going on, I've more to do with my time 

BTW just to clarify I wasn't being serious with the post about the Celtic/Rangers fans supporting Ireland/England it was supposed to be a sarcastic response to a previous post but Big Tomatoes summed it up perfectly 

[Div]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

lol that's actually quite funny. Who wrote it for you?

Nice to see you boys accepting you've been proved wrong. btw McLean made his international debut a year AFTER McGeady, so by your standards the McGeady debate is the irrelevant one.

[johnbhoy76]

not s single policeman in sight and certainly no riot police

nothing thrown at the passing cars

no wonder most of europe wants scotland at the major championships

the Mayor of Paris gave an interview the day before the game saying "We have only allowed this parade because it's the Scottish fans and we know they will be full of cheer and not cause any trouble, we wouldn't do this for any other set of  fans" Well done to him.

I think it's a self fulfilling prophecy though sometimes

When the english go abroad the police expect trouble so they get it.

when the Scots go abroad the police have a "couldn't care less" attitude and there's no trouble.

I'd like to know what the english posters think of this?

[johnbhoy76]

Cos Rangers supporters support Scotland and what separates Rangers identity from Celtic Identity is stronger than what binds them under scottish identity. Sad, but true.

Loved the knife post, classic.

 what a lot of pish again mate , please dont post on topics you know nothing about.

 i'm not getting drawn into a debate about sectarianism , all i will say , is the majority of the Tartan Army are not Old Firm fans.

 you'll find it's guys who go week in week out to watch Peterhead or Raith Rovers and spend their hard earned to go out and enjoy the big game atmosphere's these campaigns bring.

 i

How can that possibly be true though?

if you take away the Celtic and rangers fans from tommorows SPL & 1st Div attendances then you'll be lucky if it adds up to 25,000

There were 50,000 at Hampden for the Lithuania game. So clearly this was not made up of the folk who follow "raith rovers and Peterhead week in week out"

also Scotland played in a friendly to a half empty Pittodrie stadium only a few weeks ago.

It's a bit of a myth that folk in Glasgow don't support Scotland.

[cambo]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

lol that's actually quite funny. Who wrote it for you?

Nice to see you boys accepting you've been proved wrong. btw McLean made his international debut a year AFTER McGeady, so by your standards the McGeady debate is the irrelevant one.

proved wrong about what exactly?...we wernt even talking about mclean. that facts remain the same about mcgeady.

no responce to bazzas post? wonder why?...

[johnbhoy76]

fair enough if u cant get a game for ur own country...

So it's ok to be a football mercenary and play for a country you've never even set foot in.

But if you actually follow your heart and play for the country you want to play for no matter the fallout then you get abuse??

McGeady's Grandparents are Irish

he has family in ireland

he spent half his childhood in Ireland

he supported Ireland as a boy

he played for Ireland youth teams

He has every right to play for Ireland. If his circumstances related to any other country bar Ireland then he wouldn't be getting abuse at every Scottish ground it's as simple as that.

[johnbhoy76]

you know theres a bit of a difference mate. as in how high a profile the player is ,

LOLOLOL!!

Mcgeady's debut for Celtic he scored against hearts and won MOTM he was asked by Chic Young in the post match interview about why he chose Ireland. This was the FIRST question he was asked.

This was a celtic youngster making his 1st team debut yet he was already known as the "Celtic player who chose ireland" before he even kicked a ball for the first team.

He was "high profile" before he'd even played a game!

His decision made him high profile in Scotland.

[BigTomatoes]

Cos Rangers supporters support Scotland and what separates Rangers identity from Celtic Identity is stronger than what binds them under scottish identity. Sad, but true.

Loved the knife post, classic.

 what a lot of pish again mate , please dont post on topics you know nothing about.

 i'm not getting drawn into a debate about sectarianism , all i will say , is the majority of the Tartan Army are not Old Firm fans.

 you'll find it's guys who go week in week out to watch Peterhead or Raith Rovers and spend their hard earned to go out and enjoy the big game atmosphere's these campaigns bring.

 i

How can that possibly be true though?

if you take away the Celtic and rangers fans from tommorows SPL & 1st Div attendances then you'll be lucky if it adds up to 25,000

There were 50,000 at Hampden for the Lithuania game. So clearly this was not made up of the folk who follow "raith rovers and Peterhead week in week out"

also Scotland played in a friendly to a half empty Pittodrie stadium only a few weeks ago.

It's a bit of a myth that folk in Glasgow don't support Scotland.

 i was pointing out , that the majority of Scotland fans is not made up of Old Firm fans , what about the 2nd and 3rd and junior and amateur ranks ? i'd say they would make up a fair chunk of the crowd as well , wouldn't you ?

 so your saying Scotland at Hampden has 50,000 attendances , you think the Old Firm makes up for more than half of that ? there is no way of finding out unless you done a poll at a Scotland game.

 but going by your argument that you wouldn't get 25,000 fans at games tomorrow outside the Old Firm i would disagree .

 average attendances this season just for Aberdeen , Hearts , Falkirk and Gretna is over 30,000 , and that is not taking into account the rest of the divisions , so i would say you are wrong on that point mate.

[The Dundonian]

I posted this thread in quite a euphoric state on Thursday morning. It was just supposed to show everyone what a great bunch of people the Scots are.

Nothing was mentioned about Celtic, Rangers, England, Ireland, McGeady or McLean or any other nonsense that's now being spouted. It's such a great great shame and has left me with a bitter taste.

[cambo]

he supported ireland as a boy? why! he was born in glasgow!!!!

i have family in england and my mum was born there but i was born in glasgow and im scottish! so emm i suppsort scotland! seems pretty standard to me

i admit i dont know alot about his background football wise as a youth but going by bazzas post which seemed pretty informed he played for scotlands youth teams then put his turncoat on.

as for football mercenary...personally ive no problem with a player wanting to play at the highest level he can if he cant get a game for his country of BIRTH

and ur last point  yous love to play the bigot card"just cos its ireland" is total nonsence

[Ironside]

you also have to remember that alot of people OUTSIDE of glasgow support the old firm
they are more likely to support the national team than those INSIDE glasgow would be

i know in my local pub the split is 30/30/30 aberdeen celtic rangers with 10% old balls

99% in the pub would put the national team above the club side

in glasgow a large majority would put the club over the national side