A Couple O' Jocks in Paris!

[The Dundonian]

Can I go back and remove all my posts ?

Fearisthekey- I will look forward to meeting you at some point in the future.

My very last post that is not on the LIVE POKER thread.

[fearisthekey]

"Well, no. I don't partucularly care about Scottish football

Old Firm supporter then? 

nice post boldie.

Still spouting a lot of nonsense & showing how little you know about the situation - to avoid looking like a dunderheid leave things you know little or nothing about alone would be a good move.

It was a joke. And I know 'little or nothing about it' because I don't happen to share your opinion about it.
The aggressive nature of your post makes your position as moderator a dubious choice.

[Rod Paradise]

"Well, no. I don't partucularly care about Scottish football

Old Firm supporter then? 

nice post boldie.

Still spouting a lot of nonsense & showing how little you know about the situation - to avoid looking like a dunderheid leave things you know little or nothing about alone would be a good move.

It was a joke. And I know 'little or nothing about it' because I don't happen to share your opinion about it.
The aggressive nature of your post makes your position as moderator a dubious choice.

   

[thetank]

The aggressive nature of your post

As words to call someone idiotic and ill-informed go, dunderheid is probably less aggressive than most.

makes your position as moderator a dubious choice.

Would you like to be mod instead? You're on every thread. 

[bolt pp]

Can i be a mod?

[tikay]

Can i be a mod?

No.  You are not old enough. And all mods have to attend blonde Bashes.

[madasahatstand]

BOLT FOR MOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TightEnd]

he needs a face to face vetting at bb5.

First stage of a rigorous interview process

Six stages later we say no!!

[madasahatstand]

he needs a face to face vetting at bb5.

First stage of a rigorous interview process

Six stages later we say no!!

Yes but Bolts  a special case. He dont need no vetting. Its plain to see hes mod material but its  case of glass celing. He can see the the position but will never get there cause he's too cool for school:)

[bolt pp]

he needs a face to face vetting at bb5.

First stage of a rigorous interview process

Six stages later we say no!!

Yes but Bolts a special case.

got me sussed

[madasahatstand]

he needs a face to face vetting at bb5.

First stage of a rigorous interview process

Six stages later we say no!!

Yes but Bolts a special case.

got me sussed

you just blew the cover! they believed me:)

[Boba Fett]

Serious question, did Davie Weir not take the huff with Bertie Vogts & subsequently "retire" from international football?

If so, does that make him a rat/traitor etc for putting personal feelings before the needs of his country?

aye.. i thought it was a disgrace when he got called back up... he should never have been allowed to kick a ball for scotland again

Why?  He had a problem with the manager which left him exposed badly in the public eye, rather than play for a Manager that he didnt want anythign to do with and risk being unable to play at his best for Scotland he quit.  im sure when Smith took over he wasnt calling Walter begging to come back.

[johnlarsson]

Serious question, did Davie Weir not take the huff with Bertie Vogts & subsequently "retire" from international football?

If so, does that make him a rat/traitor etc for putting personal feelings before the needs of his country?

aye.. i thought it was a disgrace when he got called back up... he should never have been allowed to kick a ball for scotland again

Why?  He had a problem with the manager which left him exposed badly in the public eye, rather than play for a Manager that he didnt want anythign to do with and risk being unable to play at his best for Scotland he quit.  im sure when Smith took over he wasnt calling Walter begging to come back.

he had a shit game and berti told him and told the press that... he also said the excact same about christian dailly and he didnt go away crying

he turned his back on his nation.


boba i am not saying this becuase he is a rangers player... if you read i have also slated mcgeady for turning back on his nation

[Bazzaboy]

ano was funny when mcgeady was quoted in the paper saying he was fed up with abuse he gets all over scotland cos he chose to play for ireland. what does he expect? he was born in kingspark fs! fair enough if u cant get a game for ur own country... but to be born here and decide to play elewhere? deserves all the abuse he gets and more

Get your facts right Cambo, McGeady picked Ireland cos Scotland didn't pick him at all for years for the schoolboys despite him being one of the best players in the country at his age.

Ireland gave him a chance & he took it, Scotland then tried to get him back when he made the Celtic 1st team, they messed it up big time.

Its just the usual ignorant bigots who give him abuse.

I'd suggest you get your own facts right too.  McGeady represented the Scottish national side until under 15s and played for the Scottish schoolboys until he joined Celtic. Now I'm not sure if the rule still exists but at the time to play for Scottish schoolboys you had to be registered with a Schoolboys team, Celtic didn't allow this (ie once you signed for Celtic you were not allowed to play for your school) and thus he couldn't play for Scottish Schoolboys.  A bit different from Scotland not picking him I think you will agree. All Celtic youngsters were in the same boat.  ROI were alerted to his eligibility and made an approach for him (their rules didn't require players to be registered with a Schoolboys team).  He has played for them ever since.

As for the ill-feeling towards him I'd suggest a lot of that is due to his initial press interview (circa 2002) where he cited as one of his reasons for opting to play for ROI was that he believed he had a better chance of playing at World Cups and European Championships.  At the time McGeady was being hailed as a wonderkid and the Scottish national side were struggling badly, thus the "traitor" stuff started.

McGeady was quite a unique case (for the home nations at least) in that he opted not to play for the country of his birth despite them being desperate for him to do so.  Others who jumped ship (eg Elliot, Hutchison, Sullivan, McEveley) did so because they knew they had no hope of being capped by "their own country".  This is why McGeady is singled out for abuse imo.

Some fact checking is due here as well Bazza - the same rule applied to the Rangers registered players - but they got picked by Scotland. McGeady had the chance to sign for Celtic, when Scotland knocked him back (at an impressionable age) he was offered a place in the Ireland U15's he played for Ireland from then on, was he meant to discard them? Or do a Dominic Matteo (Dumfries born), claim to be English (despite being brought up in Dumfries) until they stop picking you after U21's and B caps for England - then realise you aint good enough & say I'm Scottish now. The so judgemental Scotland support didn't have a problem with him that I recall?

I'm disappointed that a scots-born talented footballer chooses to play for someone else, but it's a pathetic excuse for the abuse he takes from the hypocrites who haven't dished it to Burton O'Brien, Matteo, Richard Gough, Dom Hutchinson, Brian MacLean, Peter Nichol or anyone else who feels a national identity other than their place of birth (or in some of those cases who cynically chooses one). It's maybe a sad sign of how the average football fan is led by the press in their thinking, as McGeady was the first to be singled out by the press for this kind of abuse, but I can understand why a more sinister face is judged upon the attempts to justify the abuse the boy gets.

The subtle difference being that Rangers allowed their players to play for their school thus making them eligible to play for Scotlands Schoolboys side.  Can you explain how the rules making him ineligible equate to him being knocked back?  He got chance to play for ROI and he took it, which he was perfectly entitled to do so. 

I tend to agree with you on the hypocrisy aspect (although the inclusion of Gough made me smile) though but then thats been prevalent in football for years.  Just look at the reaction to Mikolunias' dive, had that been a Scotland player many (not all) of those condemning him would be praising him for being clever.  At the end of the day players will get abuse,  In the main it won't be deserved but it will happen, did Le Saux deserve to be taunted about his sexuality?  did Beckham deserve the abuse he took after France 98?  What I did find strange was McGeady complaining about it in the press recently, surely thats only going to make matters worse by highlighting something that a lot had forgotten about and many no longer cared about?

[Rod Paradise]

The subtle difference being that Rangers allowed their players to play for their school thus making them eligible to play for Scotlands Schoolboys side. 

Unless Rangers have changed it in the last few years if you are a Rangers player you don't play schools football - from as far back as Souness.