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« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2007, 12:26:40 PM »

As you say Tom everybody should be treated as an individual.  I know guy's from an estate near me that are racist, i know people that have criminal convictions, i would never say people from council estates are racist thieves, however it seems acceptable to do that when it comes to gypsies.

Really hope things go well for you.

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« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2007, 01:09:06 PM »

Thinking of you and Zelly Tom, good luck and lets hope your active role in your community makes the faceless beurocrats see sense.

good luck with it.
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« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2007, 02:25:14 PM »

I sincerely hope you get the result you want/deserve Tom!

Stories like this make my blood boil! Especially living in Cambridge, which is rife with "travellers" - I use the term loosely there as they are nothing but trouble, their sites are an eyesore, and as for them themselves - they think they are above the law - and most of the times they are! The police "seem" to not want to get involved with them, and I cant say I blame them tbh, its a very "mob orientated" outfit.

THESE are the people that NEED to be sorted out - NOT the likes or Mr and Mrs Red.

There, rant over.

Best wishes you two

Thanks Paul, I appreciate your support, but if you will indulge me I would like to take this opportunity to make a point.


I hate the term "These people" it's a sweeping statement that tars everyone, good and bad, with the same brush. I know some good decent Gypsy families who live in the Cambridge area who have no choice but to live on these big "Eyesore" sites.

If I were to move to Cambridge tomorrow, I would automatically be classed as one of "These people" just as I was when I first moved to where I am now.

We are all individuals. No one should be pre judged.

If a Gypsy steals a car, the headline in the paper reads
"Gypsies from Gorse Common steal car!"
If a house dweller steals a car the headline reads
Mr Brown from 21 New st steals car!"

The first headline implies that all of the Gypsies are guilty

The second headline implies that only Mr Brown is guilty.




Sad thing is Paul has yet to meet any of the desent travellers who live in Cambridge .

Though i have lived in a house since i was 13 i have a gypsey background that i am very proud of , i dont shout it from the roof tops .

Its amasing when talking to people who have no idea about my background how shocked they are when they find out , trouble is most percentage of the younger travellers in Cambridge tend to be arrogant and think they are above the law and yes this could be said for many young people in this day and age.

What i am trying to say ( not very well ) is that there are many travellers in Cambridge who are wonderful people , just a shame that the arrogant little upstarts are the ones most people will see/hear about .

Paul hasn't met many if any of the older familys i grew up with , only  the younger generation .
We have had our fare share of trouble with them , threatening and actual vioelence towards our children , a group in a van scared my daughter to death when they curb crawled and used very abusive , sexual language .

Bundles into a phone box with her mate by a group of the lads who wouldnt let them out coz they wanted sexual favours ( bastards !! )

What i am saying is i am proud of my heritage and love to tell my children about it , they love hearing Grandads stories of his childhood , what i am not proud of are these arrogant people who think they can do what they want because of where they live and who they think they are , they make travellers look bad , not the people who suffer the abuse at there hands .

I pray Mr and Mrs Red are left to live happily on there piece of ground .
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« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2007, 02:38:23 PM »

Reading back on my post , it sounds loads of drivel .

What i meant was i am very proud of my heritage and though i dont shout it from the roof tops i am not ashamed to tell people .

I am just sad that the younger generation in Chesterton , Cambridge are letting the travellers down , by there reckless and gang type behaviour and find it sad that all travellers are classed the same .

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« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2007, 02:39:41 PM »

I wish you all the best. Having a place to call home and the security of your family around you is all I want in life, so my thoughts are with you.
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« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2007, 02:45:45 PM »

Thoughts with you guys, hope the outcome is positive!!
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« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2007, 03:11:21 PM »

Don't let the bureaucrats grind you down. It's laughable how the system is set up. I've had several occassions been allowed a 3 minute pitch for a proposed development yet had to listen to hours of crap counter agruements.

Stand upto the system and more often than not your get there. It's just a shame that the journey is such a pain in the arse.
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« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2007, 03:14:28 PM »

Tom and Muzelley have been in my thought a lot in the last couple of weeks especially.

Let's hope all the positive vibes help create a positive outcome for a couple who truly deserve one for so many reasons.
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« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2007, 03:16:15 PM »

I don't really know what to say, the whole thing seems so ridiculous really.

Best of luck to you both and let's hope that common sense prevails!
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« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2007, 03:39:55 PM »

best of luck mr and mrs red  thumbs up

im slightly lost with all this especially the spill the council talk.

may i just ask a couple of questions?

tom do you own the land you currently live on?

and tikay say's that you dispose of your own rubbish as you dont pay council tax and dont use the refuse collectors may i ask where do u dispose of it?

these questions are in no way a knock at mr and mrs red and/or a knock at gypsy life im just curious to the answer to both.

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« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2007, 04:12:24 PM »

I sincerely hope you get the result you want/deserve Tom!

Stories like this make my blood boil! Especially living in Cambridge, which is rife with "travellers" - I use the term loosely there as they are nothing but trouble, their sites are an eyesore, and as for them themselves - they think they are above the law - and most of the times they are! The police "seem" to not want to get involved with them, and I cant say I blame them tbh, its a very "mob orientated" outfit.

THESE are the people that NEED to be sorted out - NOT the likes or Mr and Mrs Red.

There, rant over.

Best wishes you two

Thanks Paul, I appreciate your support, but if you will indulge me I would like to take this opportunity to make a point.


I hate the term "These people" it's a sweeping statement that tars everyone, good and bad, with the same brush. I know some good decent Gypsy families who live in the Cambridge area who have no choice but to live on these big "Eyesore" sites.

If I were to move to Cambridge tomorrow, I would automatically be classed as one of "These people" just as I was when I first moved to where I am now.

We are all individuals. No one should be pre judged.

If a Gypsy steals a car, the headline in the paper reads
"Gypsies from Gorse Common steal car!"
If a house dweller steals a car the headline reads
Mr Brown from 21 New st steals car!"

The first headline implies that all of the Gypsies are guilty

The second headline implies that only Mr Brown is guilty.




or that all car thieves live at 21?
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« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2007, 04:24:13 PM »

car thieves all live at no 21 though

obv

Bit early, but any news?
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« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2007, 04:26:22 PM »

fingers crossed
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« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2007, 04:31:40 PM »

car thieves all live at no 21 though

obv

Bit early, but any news?

Of course with 21 being the key to the door nearly all thieves can be found at 21.........especially as I live at 23
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« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2007, 05:07:32 PM »

Tom

You're absolutely right.

Apologies - no offence intended
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