one for the cash gamers

[AgentChip109]

this is my very first hand so no idea on styles of play


Full Tilt Poker Game #3837387579: Table Blackhawk (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:21:28 ET - 2007/10/12
Seat 1: Edgy811 ($100)
Seat 2: khimira ($73.95)
Seat 3: Fazzah ($110.50)
Seat 4: ROB502 ($33.65)
Seat 5: Miami Magi ($136.70)
Seat 6: Soda_Popinsky ($134.05)
Fazzah posts the small blind of $0.50
ROB502 posts the big blind of $1
Edgy811 posts $1
khimira: ahahah
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Edgy811 [ ]
Miami Magi folds
Soda_Popinsky folds
Edgy811 raises to $3.50
Fazzah raises to $6
ROB502 calls $5
Edgy811 calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Fazzah has 15 seconds left to act
Fazzah bets $17
ROB502 raises to $27.65, and is all in


wot do people think is the best way to play the hand from here

thanks in advance

[Longy]

I pretty much insta shove the lot on the flop, preflop looks standard to me.

[AdamG]

insta call he has overpair.

[PyrE]

Valuepush

[ifm]

Yeah i'm going bust here.

[AlexMartin]

call

[temp0r]

flat call then get it in on the turn whatever comes.
this is looking like a pretty nice situation however if it's your FIRST HAND you really shouldn't be raising a hand so tricky to play post-flop against unknown oppo.

[byronkincaid]

flat call then get it in on the turn whatever comes.
this is looking like a pretty nice situation however if it's your FIRST HAND you really shouldn't be raising a hand so tricky to play post-flop against unknown oppo.

it's 6 max, open raise any pair from any position.

[temp0r]

i only play 6 max. but i'm still not aggressing like this till i've seen 20 hands.

[byronkincaid]

would you raise aces?

[UpTheMariners]

flat call you want action off the sb who has an OP, reraising all in will only scare him off if he knows what hes doing.

[CelticGeezeer]

flat call you want action off the sb who has an OP, reraising all in will only scare him off if he knows what hes doing.

I was thinking exactly the same thing

[temp0r]

would you raise aces?

yes.

[doubleup]

flat call you want action off the sb who has an OP, reraising all in will only scare him off if he knows what hes doing.

I was thinking exactly the same thing

I think cold calling will also scare him if he knows what he's doing.  There are a zillion scare cards that can hit on the turn, so its going to be very difficult to create a sidepot.  How about reraising a small amount, enough to re-open the betting - you never know he might push (ok he'd have to be very bad).  If he calls, we've made a bit.  A small v-bet on the turn might get a bit more, but it's going to be a struggle.  Maybe just pushing and hoping he puts you on a draw is best.  Incidentally this hand is a good illustration of how these poxy short stacks can cost you indirectly.

To byron, I don't think you can profitably openraise with any pair with a shortstack to act after you.  You just get reraised or called when you c-bet too often.  I will leave if there is a shortstack acting after me in my half of the table, unless the game is super easy.
 

[byronkincaid]

would you raise aces?

yes.

I'm not really disagreeing with you, it's just you said 66 is tricky to play post flop OOP but I personally find it pretty easy, a lot easier than AA for example, admitedly because it's much easier to get away from of course. Just a minor point.