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TightEnd
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2-4NL 8 HANDED
Limp by Loose player, $425, in a lot of pots
I raise to $20
MP $560
Flat called by button, TAG, $400
Flop
check
I bet $54 into $66, to find out
Button makes it $150
EP check raises all in
Its on you...
I've found out I suppose
have learnt to pass overpairs on connected and scary boards. I pass
Standard?
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October 24, 2007, 08:50:56 PM »
i Fancy youre ahead here. All in and close your eyes and hope you don't get outdrawn. Other hands KQ & AJ.
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Irrespective of whether I was ahead or not (reveal later) am I losing/winning revenue from always passing in this spot versus two different types of player or from always calling?
what are your views on that?
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Quote from: TightEnd on October 24, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
Irrespective of whether I was ahead or not (reveal later) am I losing/winning revenue from always passing in this spot versus two different types of player or from always calling?
what are your views on that?
Damn, i knew you would get technical!!!!!!
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Long run given the hands that you could be losing to or can get outdrawn with then its the right pass. But poker decisions are situational and if you think you're in front then i stand by shove it in and close your eyes.
Wouldn't say its a STANDARD pass, its a good, disciplined pass tho.
Just out of interest what did you put them on?
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Quote from: celtic on October 24, 2007, 08:50:56 PM
i Fancy youre ahead here. All in and close your eyes and hope you don't get outdrawn. Other hands KQ & AJ.
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Disagree.
You are rarely ahead here. Good pass. Your hand is relatively transparent. Theirs isnt.
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I don't think playing for stacks here against 2 players is likely to show a profit.
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October 24, 2007, 11:02:27 PM »
IMO the only combo you're beating here is TAG with QQ or AKss and loose with a draw. TAG would def raise here with a set as he's afraid of the flush or another broadway card - loose obv goes ai with a wide range including hands that beat you. As you saw the result it somewhat biases towards TAG having a hand that beats you or AsKs, so not sure its that relevant to the discussion. I would fold here anyway, but would have a tougher decision if it was just the TAG heads-up and would probably need to know a bit more about his play.
ps stop playing full ring, it's not clever or funny.
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October 24, 2007, 11:06:57 PM »
I put TAG on a set ( overpair unlikely given flat call pre on button and unlikely to raise with AJ here, no previous inclination to raise big draws), and LAG on spades, possibly KQ spades
TAG called with
LAG had
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Quote from: doubleup on October 24, 2007, 11:02:27 PM
ps stop playing full ring, it's not clever or funny.
I am far more experienced at full ring than 6 max, and haven't the time to put the hours in at 6 Max to get competitive
Might be doing myself down, but its a mental thing
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October 24, 2007, 11:17:31 PM »
Nice fold sir.
Lesson learnt for me. If you had
or
on this board would you fold?
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Quote from: celtic on October 24, 2007, 11:17:31 PM
Nice fold sir.
Lesson learnt for me. If you had
or
on this board would you fold?
no
set under set on almost all boards, I'm stacking off.
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October 24, 2007, 11:26:52 PM »
Ok. If you had 77 on this flop why would a fold here be any different to having KK, your behind drawing to one out with 77 v set of Jacks / tens but have 2 outs if you have KK. Either way drawing thin.
Asking from a learning point of view not an argumentitive wee shite view.
Is it purely because its harder to lay a set down?
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Basically yes
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Ok TY.
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