Where did i go wrong?

[AlexMartin]

Hi guys, played this hand last night and not sure where i went wrong. Thoughts please.

Background. 2 players were very very aggressive and always raising. Id seen them show down a lot of bluffs and bad plays.
5-handed game of $1/2. Im about $350 deep and 2 other opponents have more. One has $600 and looks like a donkey.

Im dealt  utg. I decide to limp. 2 other limpers and then the button raises to $8 I call as do both limpers. Blinds pass.

Flop comes down 

I check, as do other 2 limpers, then raiser bets $12 into 35ish pot. I call 1st limper folds and limper no.2 calls.

Turn comes  . I check, limper and raiser check.

River  . I check, limper bets, aggressive button raises. Hero moves all-in.

thoughts please?

[jezza777]

why all the checks?

[TightEnd]

you slow played it pre-flop and flop and turn then a scare card comes on river, it takes off and you shove it in not having a clue whether you are correct to do so by then!


I think I would have taken off on the turn at the latest

Great thread title!!

[turny]

to slow for my likeing on every street and looks like someones got lucky on the river

[Longy]

Im not a fan of preflop, Im sure its effective in the right circumstances but meh not for me. I would just raise it standardly. I don't how you play preflop Alex but i play around 22/17 and me raising is not an uncommon site therefore my hand is disguised anyway, therefore no need to get tricky.

As played ok checking the flop is fine but once the bet comes in I like the check raise admittedly it looks strong but the description of the villans is that they might play back at you or at least call. Leading may have some merit as well here but donking into the raisor looks strange and he will almost certainly cbet for you.

Past that you really have dug a hole, on the turn it only make sense for you to check and hope to presumably check raise now with a big pot.

 On the river i just cry and swear, i definitley lead for value and to be honest i don't like getting raised. By the time you have checked again i would have firstly wonder whether the raise/bet button had been disabled. When it get backs to you i see absoutley no value in raising i mean seriously a flush is likely and the button has it all or nothing here. Its a pot odds/range question and you have given no bet sizes so i don't know if calling here is good or not.

Alex not being nasty but this hand is a total car crash, was it online if so I would have logged off and taken a break after this.

[ACE2M]

i agree with longy, the whole hand is ugly.
The original limp pre flop for deception maybe but after that it's just wrong.

lead the flop to induce a bluff or get enough money in to be able to bet the turn hard and not look to suspicious. At least c/r one you have checked.

Bet out the turn, his flop bet is weak and likely to take any free card going.

Have you just had some terrible news just before the river? Because that looks like suicide.

You probably won a huge pot right?

[AlexMartin]

Yeah point taken. But i thought i would give my hand away if i raised preflop or on the flop. I was hoping they would bet the turn.

[TightEnd]

by the river, you have no opportunity to bet for information though, you are just guessing whether you are still ahead

[totalise]

Yeah point taken. But i thought i would give my hand away if i raised preflop or on the flop. I was hoping they would bet the turn.

how often do you raise preflop? because if raising here tells them you have KK, thats a pretty bad leak lol, and what were u gonna do if someone raised after u limped, r/r? that gives ur hand away even more, and ur gonna be OOP with a deep stack for the rest of the hand.

If they bet a proper size on the flop, you might expect them to bet the turn again, but once someone bets 1/3 of the pot and gets 2 callers, and a semi scare card comes on the turn, you are waiting for a star to fall if you expect them to bet into two people on the turn, esp given their bet size on the flop.

[LuckyLloyd]

lol. This is a level and you're one of the villains in this hand. Right?

[M3boy]

lol. This is a level and you're one of the villains in this hand. Right?

I agree, Alex is the "donkey" with $600 deep lol

[totalise]

lol. This is a level and you're one of the villains in this hand. Right?

yeah come to think of it, this would make perfect sense

[bobby1]

cmon,this is a fishing thread

[GlasgowBandit]

Yep having seen some of Alex's previous posts on here I'm not buying that he played top set so badly on that flop.  Infact I don't believe for one minute that he played KK as passive as he did.

If KK looses here then IMO deserves it, played terribly.

[b4matt]

Loooool he's just trying to get Flushy to post and get banned...