to maximise value, just of out interest

[UpTheMariners]

if you had raised pre and he reraised i think we could of pushed on the flop, but as played id check raise turn.

[cooker3]

I always used to get excited and ship in here..and lose my customer..or get scared about the draw out there and ship them in ..to lose my customer..took me a long time to understand what a big mistake that was. (and sometimes I still make it..but mainly in tourneys)  call and check raise the turn is by far the best play here

Well then to combat that, start shipping it in here with nothing, that should sort that out
I 3b and call push obv.

[Smart Money]

I'll often call, looking to check/raise the turn against certain opponents but there are problems with this, e.g:

*3rd diamond falls and dries up the action.
*An overcard to his KK/QQ falls and dries up the action.
*A 2nd Ten falls and dries up the action.
*He may be on a FD.
*Turn gets checked through.
*A c/r on a blank turn looks more like a set than a FD.
*He gets a free card to his 2 outs (unlikely, but it happens)

Players who are loose pre-flop (and 24% VP$IP is loose for FR) are generally loose post-flop too and, therefore, the least likely to offer you much Fold Equity.

This is f*cking annoying when you bet out/get raised (as hoped)/jam the flop with, say, a pair + FD against their TPTK and fail to improve (because you're relying on them having the "ability" to fold in order to make this play the most +EV for you.)

However, it's great [that they offer no fold equity] in a situation such as this.

There isn't much need to get clever with the majority of opponents at these stakes (and treat all unknowns as poor!)- and many will see your probe bet/jam on the flop as a flush draw and call instantly (partly because fewer players than you may think actually bet out with sets at these stakes!)

[The_Diamond]

you reraise because he's shown strength and may like to give you more money. Calling and allowing diamond or 6/J to fall either kills your action or completes his hand.

BTW I don't like the weak lead. Check raising is better because you're hand will look more like a draw and will often induce a shove from an overpair. A bet 3-bet with theses stack sizes would stink of a set and make it easier for over-pairs to fold.

[AlexMartin]

you reraise because he's shown strength and may like to give you more money. Calling and allowing diamond or 6/J to call either kills your action or completes his hand.

BTW I don't like the weak lead. Check raising is better because you're hand will look more like a draw and will often induce a shove from an overpair. A bet 3-bet with theses stack sizes would stink of a set and make it easier for over-pairs to fold.
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V true.