Darts

[ifm]

i got 9.5, thought i was onto my 7-0 23-1 shot, but part missed a couple, also had 7-1 @ 15-1

had part @ 1.4 as well, great price i thought.

wades 5-4 loss looks better now as he was the only one who went close, part destroyed everyone else.

cant wait for the premier league to start

Nice, the BDO version starts this week. Not household names and not as razzmatazz as the Hearn comps but should still be good.

I love watching the BDO, only place to see players average in the 70's rofl.

Not only is that untrue it's very unfair, every single player you know has played in the BDO and it still remains as the one every player wants to win

[Bazzaboy]

i got 9.5, thought i was onto my 7-0 23-1 shot, but part missed a couple, also had 7-1 @ 15-1

had part @ 1.4 as well, great price i thought.

wades 5-4 loss looks better now as he was the only one who went close, part destroyed everyone else.

cant wait for the premier league to start

Nice, the BDO version starts this week. Not household names and not as razzmatazz as the Hearn comps but should still be good.

I love watching the BDO, only place to see players average in the 70's rofl.

If seeing players average in the 70s floats your boat you only had to watch some of the early matches at the PDC to see it.

 

[bobby1]

i got 9.5, thought i was onto my 7-0 23-1 shot, but part missed a couple, also had 7-1 @ 15-1

had part @ 1.4 as well, great price i thought.

wades 5-4 loss looks better now as he was the only one who went close, part destroyed everyone else.

cant wait for the premier league to start

Nice, the BDO version starts this week. Not household names and not as razzmatazz as the Hearn comps but should still be good.

I love watching the BDO, only place to see players average in the 70's rofl.

Hi Acid, I think it is a commoin misconception that the averages in the PDC tourny are miles better than the BDO, in last years comp from the last 32 the averages were as follows

The three dart average for PDC was 88.86.

The three dart average for  BDO was 88.50.

I think I remember reading an article last year that the strength in depth averages in the PDC if you took out Taylor and Barney were lower than the BDO tourney. I know there is no real reason to do the sums without those two but it shows that without the best 2 players in the world the comps are of A similar standard, where the misconception starts is that the PDC is all razzmatazz on Sky with fireworks, great musical introductions and fantastic comms, on the BBC they sneak the coverage in between the railway children and childrens BBC  or show it at 23.30 and not prime time.


If the BDO got the Barry Hearn treatment and raised its profile it would be much better off but as IFM says it is the real darts federation.

[Acidmouse]

I cant argue with facts, maybe its because I don't know any of the players so the matches seem dull and boring and I assume its a poor standard.

I like the fact PDC has characters and Sky seem to make it fun to watch   Even my wife was cheering on the darts on sky and rooting for certain players.


The BBC TV schedule last year was a complete joke, unless I stayed up really late I couldn't watch any of it.

[kinboshi]

Barry Hearn knows what he's doing in terms of promotion and creating something that the public will enjoy.  It's not always the best product, but he makes it appear as though it is.

[TightEnd]

Simple fact really, whoever has Sid Waddell commentating has the better product

the man is hilarious, and all televised darts will be much poorer when he isn't around

[kinboshi]

Simple fact really, whoever has Sid Waddell commentating has the better product

the man is hilarious, and all televised darts will be much poorer when he isn't around

[bobby1]

Simple fact really, whoever has Sid Waddell commentating has the better product

the man is hilarious, and all televised darts will be much poorer when he isn't around

The man is a legend.


My personal favourite from Sid is ' I cannot believe my Geordie eyes'

[ifm]

Waddell is an idiot, awful commentator, so far up Taylors arse it's embarrassing to listen to!!

Fkin stacking and reverse stacking!!!

[Bazzaboy]

Waddell is an idiot, awful commentator, so far up Taylors arse it's embarrassing to listen to!!

Fkin stacking and reverse stacking!!!

what he said. 

[bobby1]

Barry Hearn knows what he's doing in terms of promotion and creating something that the public will enjoy.  It's not always the best product, but he makes it appear as though it is.

Its a moot point really Kin. On one hand it is argued that Hearn as done so much for darts but on the other hand he has almost raped and pillaged the BDO because he didnt like the set up and saw an opportunity to make himself a lot of money by getting behind the PDC and tempting the players across.

Recently a consortium of bookmakers have asked him to design a snooker tourney that they can show on their sites through live feeds, they had asked the snooker Orgs to look into it and they got a very poor response. They asked Barry Hearn to sort it out and what he devised was a format where the winner qualified to play in next years Prenmier League( his flagship snooker tourny). So what he has actually devised is a tourney that doesnt have the top players in it(they are already in the Prem league) and crucially most of the players he has put forward are players either in his 'stable' or well known older pro's.

So in the end the Bookies get their tourney, The snooker authorities get another tourney for their players and Hearn gets paid by the bookies for his work, might even get paid by the snooker orgs for arranging it and his players or the ones he/they choose get the extra tourney to make money from. Everyones a winner, except the players that arent in his stable and should be in the tourney as they are better players than the ones he has.

Anyone see the connection between that and the PDO darts?

We could go on into the TV poker tournys he makes that always feature 'his' players or pretty much unknowns. He charges a lot to make them and makes em on a real shoestring budget giving himself a big profit but at the end of the day the sponsors get their tourney, the TV station get a tourny to show and Barry gets his wad. Again everyone is happy so in a business sense he is certainly a genius but in a sporting sense its arguable that he is not all that good for the general games he is involved in but great if you are in his team.

[Acidmouse]

Is it not the players choice to move to and from organisations? If they all move away to the PDC what does that show you about how the BDO is run?

Even Meryvn King (Spelling?) had to eat humble pie after his comments and join them? Why did he do this?

Interested to find out how Hearn has raped the BDO? Dont fully know the facts or history behind it.

[bobby1]

Is it not the players choice to move to and from organisations? If they all move away to the PDC what does that show you about how the BDO is run?

Even Meryvn King (Spelling?) had to eat humble pie after his comments and join them? Why did he do this?

Interested to find out how Hearn has raped the BDO? Dont fully know the facts or history behind it.

Well as IFM says this the organisation that brings darts to the masses all over the country, what he has done is go in at the top end and take out the successful players and recruited them to the PDO, so the work and effort of the BDO is eventually to the benefit of the PDO comps.

[Bazzaboy]

Is it not the players choice to move to and from organisations? If they all move away to the PDC what does that show you about how the BDO is run?

Even Meryvn King (Spelling?) had to eat humble pie after his comments and join them? Why did he do this?

Interested to find out how Hearn has raped the BDO? Dont fully know the facts or history behind it.

Money talks at the end of the day. I think I'm correct in saying the three dutchmen and King were all given a finiancial incentive to move to the PDC.  There is also greater prizemoney to be made on the PDC circuit nowadays.  Gary Anderson, who could probably claim to be the best player in the world over the past year is rumoured to be the next to move to the PDC.

[ifm]

Is it not the players choice to move to and from organisations? If they all move away to the PDC what does that show you about how the BDO is run?

Even Meryvn King (Spelling?) had to eat humble pie after his comments and join them? Why did he do this?

Interested to find out how Hearn has raped the BDO? Dont fully know the facts or history behind it.

There are joint comps open to both PDC and BDO members, Merv King has actually refused to play PDC players in the past!!
He's a famous knobhead.
Olly Guinane runs the BDO and he banned all PDC payers from BDO events including county at one point, he's very twisted and bitter.
The BDO i think it's safe to say is not run very well, Hearn is much the better organiser but as i said before the BDO does far more for darts than anything or anyone has ever done, without them there would be no stepping stones to the top.
As for raping the BDO, basically the PDC let the BDO bring on the better players and at their height they lure them away with financial incentives,the BDO cannot afford to award players these incentives as they are (supposedly) non profit and plough all monies back into the grass roots of the game.