Im noting a pattern here Alex, you seem to be very keen to bet/3bet pots oop on flop/preflop instead of using some form of pot control and trying to get a cheaper showdown with a marginal hand.Maybe its just a sample size of hands you have posted on here.
You don't want to be building a massive pot here, your hand isn't that strong. You allow people to play better against you with lines like this, as you end up folding out the worse hands and paying off the better hands, unless your opponent is a maniac.
In my opinion, I would flat the flop raise and reasses the turn. This is a tricky spot that you are making trickier with this line, of course when the fish shows k10,q10,j10 you like a genius but most opponents will pass these to the 3bet on the flop. Whereas you can get value from these hands by taking a more defensive line.
I know this is onorthodox longy, but occasionally you just "feel" ur hand is good. Not sure if it was a timing tell or the way the hand panned out but i didnt think he had an overpair and unknowns tend to slowplay big hands like set's on uncoordinated boards. He didnt seem ready to commit to the hand and i felt he was weak. Obv v any decent reg i prolly just fold flop to save headaches. Was only really worried about JJ tbh but his flop action didnt make sense there either. Also thought that he might have just been raising me on the flop to snap my c-bet and i wanted random bluff hands to fold (in pos i flat call much more).
As for 3-betting flops a lot its a style thing, esp oop on a network that doesnt have too huge player fields. I dont want players outplaying me and playing back a lot without the goods. I prefer 3-betting as it gives me a better picture of where he is in the hand, esp how long he takes to make his decision. From there i can form a strat for extracting max.
Main point is i decided on the flop my hand was good too often to warrant passing.
I pretty well never just flat call 2bets oop on the flop anymore, just dont like the way it clouds things and suits my brain better. The turn bet by me was a value bet as i thought he had a worse 10, but obv when he pushed i was sure i was crushed.
at a 2nd reading i am still happy with my assigning of JT or T9 but i am also going to throw A8c into the mixer
Ace 8 of clubs? He should have that about 0% of the time here. Who calls a re-raise to your raise on the flop with Ace 8? Surely noone unless they are completely drunk.
Unless this is a brag post by Alex showing how sometimes over playing hands completely can pay off if you are a total luckbox up againstcomplete and utter drunken idiots he is behind here.Hmmm lol. No just thought it was a fun hand. But there are idiots out there all the time and the fact it was during the Xmas break gave me another reason to think i was good.
So full HH is here and villain had A10 too!!!!
GAME #778445447: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2007-12-30 18:40:35
Table Stevens Point
Seat 1: GGrinderr ($383.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Elbemal ($412.10 in chips)
Seat 5: sbcali ($480.42 in chips)
Seat 6: nikinblinds ($952.54 in chips)
Seat 8: jumponjoe ($581.50 in chips)
Seat 10: GB904150 ($512.90 in chips) DEALER
GGrinderr: Post SB $2.00
Elbemal: Post BB $4.00
Holecards:
Dealt to nikinblinds [ SA
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Dealt to GB904150 [
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FOLD sbcali
nikinblinds : Raise $12.00
FOLD jumponjoe
GB904150: Call $12.00
FOLD GGrinderr
FOLD Elbemal
Flop:
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nikinblinds : Bet $20.00
GB904150: Raise $60.00
nikinblinds : Raise $140.00
GB904150: Call $100.00
Turn:
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nikinblinds : Bet $250.00
GB904150: Allin $340.90
nikinblinds : Call $90.90
River:
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SUMMARY:
Total pot $1,028.80 Rake $3.00
nikinblinds : wins $514.40
GB904150: wins $514.40
The table went nuts at the hand tbh, with him saying my play was dreadful. Fair enough, but i countered that WTF is he doing when i bet 250 on the turn?
I lollod.
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