Big Sam Leaves Newcastle

[Triple X]

for me Mourinho is too big a name for the managers job.  Theres only about 6 jobs in the world he'd take.

Ranieri and Houllier are much more achievable and i have been impressed with them since they left chelsea and liverpool respectively.

I repeat that i think Redknapp is not the right answer...A top quality foreign coach is the way forward.  They do exist, we had not heard much about Benitez, Mourinho and Ramos say 1 year before they took the job so do we know who the up and coming managers are of a 2nd tier team, like Porto, Sevilla or Valencia.?

[chrisbruce]

Harry Redknapp has cancelled his regular Friday news conference.

Is the writing on the wall?

[Acidmouse]

Why would anyone want to manage Newcastle? apart from the fact you will be 4m richer when sacked after 6months

[Josedinho]

Why would anyone want to manage Newcastle? apart from the fact you will be 4m richer when sacked after 6months

answered your own question. and if by some fluke the fans take to you you become a god

[Karabiner]

Why would anyone want to manage Newcastle? apart from the fact you will be 4m richer when sacked after 6months

Almost worth screwing it up on purpose....

[fergus8]

good decision to get rid of him sooner rather than later, though i cant see what harry is going to do. louis van gaal, dick advocatt, jose morinho or guss hiddink should be thier targets.

[boldie]

good decision to get rid of him sooner rather than later, though i cant see what harry is going to do. louis van gaal, dick advocatt, jose morinho or guss hiddink should be thier targets.

but what are those 4 going to do?..It's newcastle..the board will make a hash of it anyways and the fans will still think they are a big club. It's a second rate premierleague club at best and unless the board changes the club will stay second rate.

[Triple X]

didnt the board change in the summer?

Albeit from crooks to a nutter who knows diddly squat about football...

[Rooky9]

FFS. What is everyone problem with this Newcastle fans think they are a big club stuff?  Its all relative. There are approx 100 professional football clubs in the country. Over a reasonable period of recent history Newcastle are in the top 5% of those. (league performance, cup runs, turnover, big names, attendances) You could expand it across Europe and they'd still be in a similar sort of bracket. Obviously compared to a Man United turnover we're not close, and in terms of honours miles behind, but they aren't the benchmark for being big, they are the benchmark for being the best.  Don't get weighed down in labels, just look rationally at ALL of the measures of a football club.  Ask a former giant like Notts Forrest, a former top league team like Southampton or Leeds, Leicester or Coventry, and ask them what they would consider success. Being a consistant member of the PL is not only an necessity its an achievement in its own right.

I don't know any Newcastle fan that expects to win the league, or in fact expects to win anything. I know a lot who expect to compete, meaning beating the best at at home occasionally, putting in passionate performances, and getting a few draws against them away.

Football has changed massively in the last 5 years. Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have all been in the right place at the right time (a few of those have pretty much always been there). The point being that its going to be extremely difficult for any club other than one of those four to win a major trophy so how can you criticise clubs outside of those for not winning trophies. For the second rate teams in the PL (which isn't actually a derogatory term, its just fact) the best chance is probably the UEFA cup or a favourable draw in the League cup). It could be years until anyone breaks that four, even with massive investment.

As for the board - I remember the chants to oust Gordon McKeeg when I was a kid. The News of the World brothel stuff. The board has always been a big issue with Newcastle in my lifetime (Sir John Hall apart - who I think someone actually labeled as a crook earlier). However the fact is there really is no board anymore. There is an owner who wants to see some entertainment for his 250m, and probably correctly has decided that that wasn't going to happen under BSA, obviously the timing of it is poor but what can you do, its his name on the door.

Again some sensationalist media coverage and people perceptions don't actually accurately reflect reality.

Whoever gets the job, if they get the current crop playing their natural attacking game and showing passion and pride they will be backed all the way - and with the talent that is in the squad we'll be back on the right track soon enough.

[The Baron]

I was at stamford bridge a couple of weeks ago when we lost near the end to a terrible decsion by the linesman,nothing but support the team,no dissent towards the manager.I really think the press had a lot to do with the "sacking" stirring at every oppurtunity.

It will happen to Benitez soon too


(there, get the Liverpool lads on the thread..they think Benitez will be there til he retires!, I think he'll be gone by the end of the season at the latest)

I think everyone knows Benitez will go at some stage but as I said on another thread not because of footballing reasons or because the fans dont want him.

[The Baron]

Dont really see the big deal wih Big Sam getting sacked - he's the most overrated manager in football.

Other managers have had a similar budget and done much better in a shorter space of time. The Big Sam myth is in tatters.

[boldie]

Dont really see the big deal wih Big Sam getting sacked - he's the most overrated manager in football.

Other managers have had a similar budget and done much better in a shorter space of time. The Big Sam myth is in tatters.

lol..yeah because Bolton is doing soo well without him and Newcastle is indeed in big big trouble. Get out of here. Big Sam is a good manager and every manager needs time. It's endemic of the sickness that is Newcastle Utd that he couldn't do anything with those guys but, given time, he would have got them moving up the table.

[Longy]

Dont really see the big deal wih Big Sam getting sacked - he's the most overrated manager in football.

Other managers have had a similar budget and done much better in a shorter space of time. The Big Sam myth is in tatters.

What?

His managerial record until he took over Newcastle was faultless. Firstly Blackpool where he turned from a nothing side struggling in the lower reaches of the football league, who very nearly got into the 2nd tier for the first time in a generation under him. Then took Bolton from the middle of todays championship to a side that were regular top half team in the Premiership, something that Bolton had virtually never been, save for a years in the 50's.

Despite having a rep as an old fashioned football person, he infact was very innovative and took on many new innovations in football way before his colleagues.

I sense you just don't like the fact that his teams didn't play the prettiest football but alas supporters of provincial clubs can't afford the luxury of having our team play creative attacking football to win games. There is no myth.

[Pelham Boy]

Dont really see the big deal wih Big Sam getting sacked - he's the most overrated manager in football.

Other managers have had a similar budget and done much better in a shorter space of time. The Big Sam myth is in tatters.

What?

His managerial record until he took over Newcastle was faultless. Firstly Blackpool where he turned from a nothing side struggling in the lower reaches of the football league, who very nearly got into the 2nd tier for the first time in a generation under him. Then took Bolton from the middle of todays championship to a side that were regular top half team in the Premiership, something that Bolton had virtually never been, save for a years in the 50's.

Despite having a rep as an old fashioned football person, he infact was very innovative and took on many new innovations in football way before his colleagues.

I sense you just don't like the fact that his teams didn't play the prettiest football but alas supporters of provincial clubs can't afford the luxury of having our team play creative attacking football to win games. There is no myth.

 

[Colchester Kev]

Redknapp has no track record of winning major trophies, but then again neither have Newcastle.