free cash for kids or should they earn it?

[RED-DOG]

When we were kids we did as much to help as we could. the whole family pitched in and worked together. It was expected, and it was necessary. (how else would we learn anything?) My kids did the same.

Payment wasn't part of the equation. Yes, I got pocket money (sometimes) as a child, so did my kids, but it wasn't seen as payment for doing work or chores.

[boldie]

I'm with Red on this. Pocket money is pocket money..don't need to pay them to do chores..they do chores because they are part of the family and everybody has to pitch in.

100£ a month is ridiculous though..that would come right down..

[Laxie]

I should expand on how it's done here.  They WILL pitch in.  If they do it without a fight, they get the pocket money.  If they argue, they're still helping out, but no money at the end of it.  When they say, 'But MOM!!!  I wanted to go to the shop.'  I say, 'Yeah, and I wanted help around the house without a fight.  Guess neither of us got what we wanted...but at least the jobs are done and we can relax now.' 

[booder]

a discussion we had t'other day............pretty appropriate


 
DEWI:  Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.
COLCH KEV: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine,
                ay Colonel?
BOODER:  You're right there seat 5
FLUSHY:      Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin'
                here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
DEWI: Aye.  In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup
    o' tea.
COLCH KEV: A cup ' COLD tea.
FLUSHY: Without milk or sugar.
BOODER: OR tea!
DEWI: In a filthy, cracked cup.
FLUSHY: We never used to have a cup.  We used to have to drink out of a
    rolled up newspaper.
COLCH KEV: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
BOODER: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
DEWI: Aye.  BECAUSE we were poor.  My old Dad used to say to me, "Money
    doesn't buy you happiness."
FLUSHY: 'E was right.  I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'.  We used to
    live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
COLCH KEV: House?  You were lucky to have a HOUSE!  We used to live in one
    room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture.  Half the
    floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for
    fear of FALLING!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a ROOM!  *We* used to have to live in a
    corridor!
DEWI: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor!  Woulda' been a
    palace to us.  We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish
    tip.  We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting
    fish dumped all over us!  House!?  Hmph.
FLUSHY: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered
    by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
COLCH KEV: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and
    live in a lake!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a LAKE!  There were a hundred and sixty
    of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
DEWI: Cardboard box?
BOODER: Aye.
DEWI: You were lucky.  We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in
    a septic tank.  We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the
    morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down
    mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out.  When we got home,
    out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
COLCH KEV: Luxury.  We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in
    the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to
    work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad
    would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we
    were LUCKY!
BOODER: Well we had it tough.  We used to have to get up out of the shoebox
    at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues.
    We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four
    hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we
    got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
FLUSHY: Right.  I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night,
    half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump
    of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill
    owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home,
    our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves
    singing "Hallelujahaments"
DEWI: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
    believe ya'.
ALL: Nope, nope..


disclaimer.....this conversation never really took place between us.
thank you to monty python for their genius

[Nakor]

a discussion we had t'other day............pretty appropriate


 
DEWI:  Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.
COLCH KEV: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine,
                ay Colonel?
BOODER:  You're right there seat 5
FLUSHY:      Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin'
                here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
DEWI: Aye.  In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup
    o' tea.
COLCH KEV: A cup ' COLD tea.
FLUSHY: Without milk or sugar.
BOODER: OR tea!
DEWI: In a filthy, cracked cup.
FLUSHY: We never used to have a cup.  We used to have to drink out of a
    rolled up newspaper.
COLCH KEV: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
BOODER: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
DEWI: Aye.  BECAUSE we were poor.  My old Dad used to say to me, "Money
    doesn't buy you happiness."
FLUSHY: 'E was right.  I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'.  We used to
    live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
COLCH KEV: House?  You were lucky to have a HOUSE!  We used to live in one
    room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture.  Half the
    floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for
    fear of FALLING!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a ROOM!  *We* used to have to live in a
    corridor!
DEWI: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor!  Woulda' been a
    palace to us.  We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish
    tip.  We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting
    fish dumped all over us!  House!?  Hmph.
FLUSHY: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered
    by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
COLCH KEV: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and
    live in a lake!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a LAKE!  There were a hundred and sixty
    of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
DEWI: Cardboard box?
BOODER: Aye.
DEWI: You were lucky.  We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in
    a septic tank.  We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the
    morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down
    mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out.  When we got home,
    out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
COLCH KEV: Luxury.  We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in
    the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to
    work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad
    would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we
    were LUCKY!
BOODER: Well we had it tough.  We used to have to get up out of the shoebox
    at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues.
    We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four
    hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we
    got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
FLUSHY: Right.  I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night,
    half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump
    of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill
    owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home,
    our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves
    singing "Hallelujahaments"
DEWI: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
    believe ya'.
ALL: Nope, nope..


disclaimer.....this conversation never really took place between us.
thank you to monty python for their genius

So wrong as if Dewi would drink wine - huh
And not even a python sketch.

Not to your usual standard Booder, please try harder.

[ifm]

My kids are rewarded for being good, for being respectful and for doing well at school.
I don't think kids should "work" i think kids should be kids, they can look after me when i'm old and infirm.

[cia260895]

Excellent replies coming through gonna show the wife soon me thinks, things might might change things....

[Claw75]

If I were you, i really wouldn't show your wife the thread.  You know her best of course, but it might not go down too well if it looks like you've been airing your disagreements on a public forum and basically intend to show her the views of people she doesn't know to back up your argument.  I'd probably just say 'i've been doing a bit of research on the internet, and it seems most people with teenage kids expect them to help round the house', or something.

[jizzemm]

I don't really get your point either Jizzem.  I wouldn't expect anything more than a 'thanks' or 'cheers, I owe you one'.  If he didn't say thank you, then I too would be peeved!

Im rubbish at telling a story, i need to have red dog lessons for sure.. I forgot to mention the point that realiy peeved me off was there was no thank you or owe you 1, that was the point to the story, i just left it out.. 

[KarmaDope]

a discussion we had t'other day............pretty appropriate


 
DEWI:  Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.
COLCH KEV: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine,
                ay Colonel?
BOODER:  You're right there seat 5
FLUSHY:      Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin'
                here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
DEWI: Aye.  In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup
    o' tea.
COLCH KEV: A cup ' COLD tea.
FLUSHY: Without milk or sugar.
BOODER: OR tea!
DEWI: In a filthy, cracked cup.
FLUSHY: We never used to have a cup.  We used to have to drink out of a
    rolled up newspaper.
COLCH KEV: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
BOODER: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
DEWI: Aye.  BECAUSE we were poor.  My old Dad used to say to me, "Money
    doesn't buy you happiness."
FLUSHY: 'E was right.  I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'.  We used to
    live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
COLCH KEV: House?  You were lucky to have a HOUSE!  We used to live in one
    room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture.  Half the
    floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for
    fear of FALLING!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a ROOM!  *We* used to have to live in a
    corridor!
DEWI: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor!  Woulda' been a
    palace to us.  We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish
    tip.  We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting
    fish dumped all over us!  House!?  Hmph.
FLUSHY: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered
    by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
COLCH KEV: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and
    live in a lake!
BOODER: You were lucky to have a LAKE!  There were a hundred and sixty
    of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
DEWI: Cardboard box?
BOODER: Aye.
DEWI: You were lucky.  We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in
    a septic tank.  We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the
    morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down
    mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out.  When we got home,
    out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
COLCH KEV: Luxury.  We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in
    the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to
    work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad
    would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we
    were LUCKY!
BOODER: Well we had it tough.  We used to have to get up out of the shoebox
    at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues.
    We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four
    hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we
    got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
FLUSHY: Right.  I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night,
    half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump
    of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill
    owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home,
    our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves
    singing "Hallelujahaments"
DEWI: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
    believe ya'.
ALL: Nope, nope..


disclaimer.....this conversation never really took place between us.
thank you to monty python for their genius

So wrong as if Dewi would drink wine - huh
And not even a python sketch.

Not to your usual standard Booder, please try harder.

Erm...when we had the Chezger game at Christmas, Dewi drank 3 bottles of red wine on his own...

[booder]

And not even a python sketch.

Not to your usual standard Booder, please try harder.

apologies........i was under the impression messrs Gilliam,Palin,Chapman and Idle were members of aforementioned group of performers.

[Nakor]

And not even a python sketch.

Not to your usual standard Booder, please try harder.

apologies........i was under the impression messrs Gilliam,Palin,Chapman and Idle were members of aforementioned group of performers.

Idle and Palin were in At last the 1948 show?
Come on its the best writing credit Tim Brooke Taylor has.

As for the kids make them work for it - getting something for nothing teaches you little, its good to learn that positive action equals reward no matter how fortunate the surroundings of youth.

[boldie]

I am with nakor...I thought of having my future kids make sneakers to earn their pocket money but them damned Asian kids keep undercutting me

[cia260895]

If I were you, i really wouldn't show your wife the thread.  You know her best of course, but it might not go down too well if it looks like you've been airing your disagreements on a public forum and basically intend to show her the views of people she doesn't know to back up your argument.  I'd probably just say 'i've been doing a bit of research on the internet, and it seems most people with teenage kids expect them to help round the house', or something.

Your right not worth a rolliking yet will wait til i get more response then shower them down on her

[boldie]

If I were you, i really wouldn't show your wife the thread.  You know her best of course, but it might not go down too well if it looks like you've been airing your disagreements on a public forum and basically intend to show her the views of people she doesn't know to back up your argument.  I'd probably just say 'i've been doing a bit of research on the internet, and it seems most people with teenage kids expect them to help round the house', or something.

Your right not worth a rolliking yet will wait til i get more response then shower them down on her

 If you even hint that you've made this post she will have your nuts in a vice..it's the way of the woman. Pretend all the arguements are your own..never tell her you posted it on your poker forum