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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2005, 12:17:35 PM » |
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then why say it in the text box  nah, don't wash |
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2005, 12:21:47 PM » |
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they say it in the text box so it looks like they have done it blind and are not colluding.
Am I just too suspicious?
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2005, 12:26:20 PM » |
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before the cards are dealt they ARE doing it blind  |
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2005, 12:32:50 PM » |
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The point of the exercise is to get one of them doubled up so yes they are doing it blind cos they havent seen their cards. This does not mean collusion has not taken place. The fact they havent seen their cards is completely irrelevant because they set it up before hand.
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2005, 12:37:38 PM » |
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What they're doing is almost certainly not +$ev though, even in a sng I think. However is it as simple as saying if they have 50% of each other it's collusion if they're genuinly doing it for the gamble and have no piece of each other it's OK?
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2005, 12:48:35 PM » |
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If they are just doing it for the gamble then there is no problem. Is having double the chips of your opponents after one hand a -ev play? I dont know but would be very interested to read peoples thoughts.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2005, 12:52:06 PM » |
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I mean if there're playing off the same roll ie if they genuinely are colluding this is a pretty poor way to do it I think. Not that I have given a lot of thought to what is the best way to collude. If you are playing normally then of course it's good to double up.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2005, 01:00:48 PM » |
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Lets take an example of say a £50 ten hand STT. £500 in the pool first pays £250 2nd £150 and 3rd £100 pretty standard online payout.
I suppose the question is would you be willing to pay £100 to start the comp with double the chips against 8 players? Does this give you enough of an edge over the field to make it worthwhile?
I actually dont know but i think you have a much higher chance of cashing than the rest, and will cash a lot more of the time.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2005, 03:05:39 PM » |
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Chip dumping in STT's is -EV
As for this situation i don't see anything wrong with it, i have done it both live and online, although always in a rebuy comp.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2005, 03:16:24 PM » |
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i dont think it is wrong. if they did have 50% in each other then they are better off playing until later on in the tourney then dumping. having double chips after 1 hand in a 400 runner tourney doesnt guarentee you will cash does it. i reckon it was just an idiot who won a £3 sat to get in and tried to gamble. anyway whats to say 1 or 2 other people wouldnt call the all in
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2005, 03:45:49 PM » |
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Some of my comments in this thread seem a little strange now because it seems that someone has deleted a couple of their posts.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2005, 03:48:01 PM » |
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and considering they are seats 3 & 5, it's pretty dumb if it is collusion, as they have a few people still to act after them, any of whom could hold a strong hand
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2005, 03:49:27 PM » |
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Lol - was player 1 lucky to find a real hand here or what? Would he have done it if he hadn't? Player 2 was duped!  |
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2005, 03:58:27 PM » |
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Hang on folks lets look at it this way. Tighy and I are on the same table at the start of the comp. I phone him and say " lets both go in 1st hand , a early double up will give us more of an edge than we have at the moment " He agrees . Then the situation tighty described occurs. Still missing somthing?
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2005, 04:01:16 PM » |
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Chip dumping in STT's is -EV
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