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« on: January 23, 2008, 01:57:27 AM »

This was in the Crypto 20k earlier. At the start of the hand I have 2.1k MP  has 3.5k BB has 2k. Blinds 15/30. No info.

MP opens the pot for 90, im on the button with 99, and flat call (standard right?), bb also calls.

Flop is 852 2 hearts, bb checks and MP bets out 240 into the 270 pot.

How do we proceed from here. Is raising pointless? Fold worse stack better etc. I was really tempted to open fold in this spot. What do you feel the merits for call/raise/fold are. Call and reevaluate turn. I ended up raising to 600 and passing to his shove and pretty sure this is just spewing chips most times. Don't even know why I did it!
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 05:07:51 AM »

i usually flat it here + re-eval on the turn.

I dont mind the raise/fold line though.  This eliminates the possibility of a bad turn card peeling off and having to fold to another bullet.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2008, 09:28:40 AM »

i usually flat it here + re-eval on the turn.

I dont mind the raise/fold line though.  This eliminates the possibility of a bad turn card peeling off and having to fold to another bullet.

Raising with the intention of folding to a shove here is really, really bad. You can definitely call here and see a turn though. Apart from the fact that we will still have 2x the pot behind and it is reasonable to think that we should still be ahead here a fair percentage of the time; calling here is the play that makes you toughest to play against and maximises the chances that he makes a mistake.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 10:52:24 AM »

at such a low level maybe there is a chance to reraise pre flop to say 250 and see how much your man likes his original raise. It may get rid of the BB. It might not.

Hindsight.....wonderful tool

Anyway after the flop I call and take the turn and make a decision from there
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 01:10:48 AM »

i usually flat it here + re-eval on the turn.

I dont mind the raise/fold line though.  This eliminates the possibility of a bad turn card peeling off and having to fold to another bullet.

Raising with the intention of folding to a shove here is really, really bad. You can definitely call here and see a turn though. Apart from the fact that we will still have 2x the pot behind and it is reasonable to think that we should still be ahead here a fair percentage of the time; calling here is the play that makes you toughest to play against and maximises the chances that he makes a mistake.
Naturally I 100% agree
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