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« on: January 25, 2008, 10:55:55 AM »

I split with my ex in 2002 and have always paid the maintenace for my boys,during the ongoing battles with the ex over numerous issues i still paid even paid above what i was asked to pay.During the process The CSA assessed me as having to pay £0.00 a week knowing this was wrong i continued to pay the maintenance.
They even at 1 point calculated that i had overpaid by £855 due to having a £0.00 assessment.while an appeal on housing costs (they wanted it apportioned that my new wife paid 60% to wards the housing cost??was heard,after 4 appeal hearing involving the secretary of state i really couldn't be arsed to carry on with it especially as all we were arguing about equated to about £6 a week any way i received a letter from them saying that they were going to start court proceedings if i dint pay them what was owed £5.5k as although i had paid my wife directly and proved it with bank statements at the appeals it seems that throughout the different csa departments they cannot cross reference any thing so it is down to me to prove i paid it,i asked if they could simply ask my ex how much she has received and the reply was yes they can but she is under no obligation to tell them anything,so should i waste more of the tax payers money and go to court to prove i have paid?because as it stands at the mo i have to  prove my innocence as they assume i am guilty of not paying!! when i asked if they could e mail all the account information the reply was.... No as this is not a safe form of sending information and that they will send it to me in the post lol
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 11:22:00 AM »

wow..good thing they are sending stuff through the post as they've never lost information that way before....

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 11:49:36 AM »

Has the public sector not heard of encryption?

And what a ridiculous situation also!
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 04:31:02 PM »

Just received a letter from CSA saying my ex wife has agreed that i have paid for the last 5 months deducting that from the total i owe,but they didn't ask her about any previous payments because the appeal was decided 5 months ago and that is all they asked her from then,why the hell they couldn't just get her to confirm that i have always paid now i have to get all my bank statements from 2002 and send it to them showing that i have paid,where then they will investigate it further but at this moment in time i am still apparently well in arrears and how would i like to pay?? please see enclosed direct debit mandate lol
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 04:33:11 PM »

Bet ya the gays don't have that problem.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 04:39:14 PM »

Bet ya the gays don't have that problem.

Scenario.... same sex couple adopt a child then spilt up does 1 have to pay the other 1 maintenance and what would happen if the 1 who was forced to pay just said well just re-adopt her then?Huh??
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 04:45:48 PM »

Bet ya the gays don't have that problem.

Scenario.... same sex couple adopt a child then spilt up does 1 have to pay the other 1 maintenance and what would happen if the 1 who was forced to pay just said well just re-adopt her then?Huh??

WOW, you don't quite get how this adoption thing works, do you?
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 09:51:46 PM »

No I do(i was talking hypothetically (as i am fullly aware of financial obligations bearing in mind my history with the csa) I was just trying to redirect this thread back towards the CSA thats why i opened the other 1 up
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 10:08:27 PM »


Scenario.... same sex couple adopt a child then spilt up does 1 have to pay the other 1 maintenance and what would happen if the 1 who was forced to pay just said well just re-adopt her then?Huh??


Also, what would happen if they took the baby out clubbing?
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 11:31:08 PM »


Scenario.... same sex couple adopt a child then spilt up does 1 have to pay the other 1 maintenance and what would happen if the 1 who was forced to pay just said well just re-adopt her then?Huh??


Also, what would happen if they took the baby out clubbing?

I think clubbing baby seals is illegal in this country (regardless of sexual orientation).
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2008, 12:42:01 AM »

True you would have to go to Canada for a seal clubbing holiday.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2008, 12:53:37 AM »

True you would have to go to Canada for a seal clubbing holiday.

He still performs in this country i think, still dont understand why they have him on superbowl time tho commentating!
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 02:58:39 PM »

now i'd like to see this seal clubbed

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 08:35:21 PM »

Anyway back to the CSA...
After 12 calls today to the CSA i finally managed to get through to a manager who informed me that they can speak directly to my ex-wife and that she would phone her as soon as we were finished as there is no reason as to why the CSA cannot ask her directly if she has received payments,she did say that the CSA guidelines that all case workers have to follow are so ambiguous that (off the record) 80% of them haven't got a clue how the system should work.

she called me straight back and said that she has left a message with my ex-wife to call her asap.In the meantime they have set aside 2 days to go through all the case history as she can see that i have overpaid by approx(8.5k) this is from the calculations that they use to work everything out and the paperwork from the various appeals. Although i did explain to her that regardless of their findings there would be no way that i would ask my ex-wife to return this money because it was what i agreed to pay maintenance to my ex-wife when things were amicable between us,and i don't have any issues as to paying for the upbringing of my boys and never have done.

I did ask her as to why i have received so much correspondence and court threatening action when there are clearly untold fathers who never pay anything towards there kids.Her reply was and i quote "because you have always been upfront and informed us of all of your change of circumstances,therefore it is easier to go after someone who we know where they are and how to get hold of you"

Who knows if this will get resolved but i am more hopeful now than i was last week
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 12:42:04 PM »

Latest update..

Spoke to csa today and they told me that ex-wife has confirmed payments that she has received from sept 2005 onwards and that they will be demanding copies of all her bank statements from when the maintenance period started,
also by looking at the info they have that I have overpaid and that the Secretary of State will reimburse me the amount and then claim it back from my ex,i said that i wasn't interested in claiming any thing back as i feel that i haven't overpaid.But i will still receive any monies that would be owed to me!!!
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