How does someones age affect your view on someones poker ability?

[Longy]

Ok i know there are very good players ranging from Annette to Doyle, but I sat down tonight at DTD to play the 50 f/o (you can tell it went well from the time lol) and looking round the table to a mixture of age groups and immediatley categorised them into who I thought was likely to be good or not.

I do this almost without thinking now and was wondering whether other people think the same. I won't reveal my thoughts though many may be able to guess.

Cue the Tikay jokes.

[jakally]

There's an article about players ages by Bill Elder in a magazine this month (think it may be Bluff).


He was saying that he would much rather have an unknown bunch of over 40's at his table than an unknown bunch of young players.

[Snatiramas]

I don't care what age but I just am unable abide rude people at the table.....other than myself obviously

[M3boy]

i do similar, but not just by age

[snoopy1239]

It's a bit of a sweeping generalisation, but the oldies would be too rocky and the youngies too good, so it's the middle for me.

[PocketLady]

Yeah, in general I agree with snoopy, although often the oldies are craftier than they first appear!

[Tragic]

The younger someone is I tend to expect less of a balanced game. Eitehr uber aggro or uber tight. People tend to get one of those two impressions of me depending on the day it seems. I always think old people will be more likely to see me as scared money. I also think older people are more likely to totally lack many fundamentals. On the balance I would definitely sit at a table of older people, though the best of the best I would say experience is always going to help,especially live, and the players at dtd I genuinely would rather not play against for edge reasons are older people.

[kinboshi]

We all make snap judgements based on first impressions.

• The young lad in the Full Tilt hoodie - he's going to be hyper-aggressive and 'holla' when he wins a big pot.
• The older fella in the expensive suit - he's going to less interested in the money (else he wouldn't be playing in the same game as me), and he's probably learning the ropes and having a bit of fun.
• The skinny 20-something fella with the glasses and the t-shirt with a geeky joke on it is going to be a strong maths-based player.
• The old fella, snoring in the corner is probably going to mis-read his cards.
• The Chinese fella in the loud shirt and very attractive girlfriend is going to be a bit of a gambler.
• The good-looking girl (the only girl at the table) is likely to be a decent player, otherwise she wouldn't be here.
• The fella with a really dodgy, long beard, dressed in black - well he's going to be easy money.

These are based on a combination of experience and stereotypes.  The skill is being able to reassess the initial judgement, and decide whether it was a stereotype that the player doesn't conform to, or if in fact it was accurate. 

[RED-DOG]

I don't think those old farts can hold a candle to us young guns.

Er.. innit?

[AlexMartin]

We all make snap judgements based on first impressions.

• The young lad in the Full Tilt hoodie - he's going to be hyper-aggressive and 'holla' when he wins a big pot.
• The older fella in the expensive suit - he's going to less interested in the money (else he wouldn't be playing in the same game as me), and he's probably learning the ropes and having a bit of fun.
• The skinny 20-something fella with the glasses and the t-shirt with a geeky joke on it is going to be a strong maths-based player.
• The old fella, snoring in the corner is probably going to mis-read his cards.
• The Chinese fella in the loud shirt and very attractive girlfriend is going to be a bit of a gambler.

• The good-looking girl (the only girl at the table) is likely to be a decent player, otherwise she wouldn't be here.

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• The fella with a really dodgy, long beard, dressed in black - well he's going to be easy money.

She's there to have a giggle or get some airtime for her sponsors if she's under 30. Few good-looking women can play decent poker, why would they want to spend time playing with fat smelly grumpy men when there are a thousand better things to do? There are always exceptions of course, that bird from gutshot is v.fit and a v.good player apparently.

These are based on a combination of experience and stereotypes.  The skill is being able to reassess the initial judgement, and decide whether it was a stereotype that the player doesn't conform to, or if in fact it was accurate. 

[DaveShoelace]

Its funny really, my first experience of poker was in the casino, and at the time it would be the fat old men that intimidated me, the ones I assumed were the 'sharks'.

Now I usually am much more cautious of the spotty young lad who otherwise looks out of place.

That said, the only player I've ever played who I believe truly destroyed me and handed me my ass on a platter was Willie Tann, whom I assume is somewhere in the Bus Pass stages of life.

[kinboshi]

We all make snap judgements based on first impressions.

• The young lad in the Full Tilt hoodie - he's going to be hyper-aggressive and 'holla' when he wins a big pot.
• The older fella in the expensive suit - he's going to less interested in the money (else he wouldn't be playing in the same game as me), and he's probably learning the ropes and having a bit of fun.
• The skinny 20-something fella with the glasses and the t-shirt with a geeky joke on it is going to be a strong maths-based player.
• The old fella, snoring in the corner is probably going to mis-read his cards.
• The Chinese fella in the loud shirt and very attractive girlfriend is going to be a bit of a gambler.
• The good-looking girl (the only girl at the table) is likely to be a decent player, otherwise she wouldn't be here.
• The fella with a really dodgy, long beard, dressed in black - well he's going to be easy money.

She's there to have a giggle or get some airtime for her sponsors if she's under 30. Few good-looking women can play decent poker, why would they want to spend time playing with fat smelly grumpy men when there are a thousand better things to do? There are always exceptions of course, that bird from gutshot is v.fit and a v.good player apparently.

These are based on a combination of experience and stereotypes.  The skill is being able to reassess the initial judgement, and decide whether it was a stereotype that the player doesn't conform to, or if in fact it was accurate. 

It's the fact she's there, and is out of place that would suggest that she's a decent player.  Remember, I don't play in games where sponsors are getting airtime.

[kinboshi]

If you have an unknown sit down at your table, and you see they have a nice watch, or expensive clothes, etc., do you think "oh no" or "oh yes"?

[LOJ]

Being relitevly new to live poker I'm pretty weary of anyone I play with until a few hands have been dealt.  Until I see what cards they are raising with, calling with, etc, I try not to assume anything about the player Im up against.

Any aggresive player is a tough one,and after reading Doyles super series, everyone is trying to do the same.  Trick is to figure them out and thats the time to use the asumption.

So in answer to the question, I dont judge anyone when I see them. (only Kinboshi >  ) 

[kinboshi]

Being relitevly new to live poker I'm pretty weary of anyone I play with until a few hands have been dealt.  Until I see what cards they are raising with, calling with, etc, I try not to assume anything about the player Im up against.

Any aggresive player is a tough one,and after reading Doyles super series, everyone is trying to do the same.  Trick is to figure them out and thats the time to use the asumption.

So in answer to the question, I dont judge anyone when I see them. (only Kinboshi >  ) 

You are welcome at ANY TIME at my table.