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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2008, 02:44:12 PM »

I'm not an expert on law, but I'm not sure that you could try that defence on a speeding ticket, as you have the opportunity to defend yourself in the court of law if you wish.

The article only states that parking offences were decriminalised in the Road Traffic Act 1991, I imagine that speeding is still a criminal offence.
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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2008, 02:58:48 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here.  Do we know anyone... ?
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2008, 06:13:15 PM »

At the end of the day laws are put into place by society to solve problems and if you break the law then there needs to be consequences, otherwise we might as well have no laws at all.

If you can't accept that if you get caught speeding and get fined, then don't complain when I come round and rob your house.
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 05:54:22 PM »

At the end of the day laws are put into place by society to solve problems and if you break the law then there needs to be consequences, otherwise we might as well have no laws at all.

If you can't accept that if you get caught speeding and get fined, then don't complain when I come round and rob your house.

All very well and i agree with your sentiment however, with the Govt fleecing people with parking tickets that they KNOW can't be held up in a court of law - I'm still being robbed. In fact in someways it could be argued that the thief who breaks into the house is more honest than the council and by extension the Govt as they make no pretense as to their real aim...
Also I'm aware I'm being contentious / anarchic even  but if the Govt is unable to follow the law of the country why should the people?  stirthepot






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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 06:55:18 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here.  Do we know anyone... ?

Obviously not
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2008, 06:59:24 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here. Do we know anyone... ?

Obviously not

Do you know anyone?

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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2008, 07:04:10 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here. Do we know anyone... ?

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Do you know anyone?



Nope, I keep away from lawyers, rum lot they are.
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2008, 07:19:47 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here. Do we know anyone... ?

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Nope, I keep away from lawyers, rum lot they are.

Good advice.  Never met one I could trust.
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2008, 07:51:48 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here. Do we know anyone... ?

Obviously not

Do you know anyone?



Nope, I keep away from lawyers, rum lot they are.

Good advice.  Never met one I could trust.


lol, cheeky git.
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2008, 08:03:26 PM »

Good luck anyone who tries to get out of a speeding offence by contesting it in court.  You've got very little (zero) chance of getting off unless the police have made some procedural error or the equipment can be shown to be inaccurate/faulty.

If you're speeding and get a £60 fine and 3 points, hold your hands up and accept it.  You broke the law and were caught.  Go to caught and risk paying a LOT more.

It'd be interesting to get someone with legal knowledge to post on here. Do we know anyone... ?

Obviously not

Do you know anyone?



Nope, I keep away from lawyers, rum lot they are.

Good advice.  Never met one I could trust.


lol, cheeky git.

You'll have the last laugh Robert. You wrote three words in reply to him - wait till he gets the bill for that!
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2008, 08:59:05 PM »

I got stopped for speeding by ukranian police yesterday, I'd even slowed right down as I know where the police are every day. I was on the main L'viv-Kyiv highway which is the equivalent of the A1 in the UK and which has a speed limit of 130 so I was somewhat surprised when told I was in trouble because they'd clocked me at 71. It turns out they've reduced the speed limit to 50 on a 200 yard stretch outside the police station so they can catch and fine drivers (the 50 max signs are hidden in bushes). To say I was unimpressed is an understatement, especially as the speed limit in towns/built up areas is higher at 60 so I point blank refused to fill in any of their forms accepting to pay the fine or to take option b which is to pay a small bribe and just argued with them for 10 minutes. In the end they realised they weren't going to get any cash out of me and let me go. Not before they gave me a demo of how the speed gun worked though which was quite good fun.

Not sure that this tecnique for avoiding fines will work in the UK though
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2008, 11:47:07 PM »

I got stopped for speeding by ukranian police yesterday, I'd even slowed right down as I know where the police are every day. I was on the main L'viv-Kyiv highway which is the equivalent of the A1 in the UK and which has a speed limit of 130 so I was somewhat surprised when told I was in trouble because they'd clocked me at 71. It turns out they've reduced the speed limit to 50 on a 200 yard stretch outside the police station so they can catch and fine drivers (the 50 max signs are hidden in bushes). To say I was unimpressed is an understatement, especially as the speed limit in towns/built up areas is higher at 60 so I point blank refused to fill in any of their forms accepting to pay the fine or to take option b which is to pay a small bribe and just argued with them for 10 minutes. In the end they realised they weren't going to get any cash out of me and let me go. Not before they gave me a demo of how the speed gun worked though which was quite good fun.

Not sure that this tecnique for avoiding fines will work in the UK though

LMFAO ... you fool, while they were showing you how the speed gun works, one of them stuck an incendiary device on your car which caused it to catch fire..OBV. Cheesy
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2008, 06:33:59 AM »

I got stopped for speeding by ukranian police yesterday, I'd even slowed right down as I know where the police are every day. I was on the main L'viv-Kyiv highway which is the equivalent of the A1 in the UK and which has a speed limit of 130 so I was somewhat surprised when told I was in trouble because they'd clocked me at 71. It turns out they've reduced the speed limit to 50 on a 200 yard stretch outside the police station so they can catch and fine drivers (the 50 max signs are hidden in bushes). To say I was unimpressed is an understatement, especially as the speed limit in towns/built up areas is higher at 60 so I point blank refused to fill in any of their forms accepting to pay the fine or to take option b which is to pay a small bribe and just argued with them for 10 minutes. In the end they realised they weren't going to get any cash out of me and let me go. Not before they gave me a demo of how the speed gun worked though which was quite good fun.

Not sure that this tecnique for avoiding fines will work in the UK though

LMFAO ... you fool, while they were showing you how the speed gun works, one of them stuck an incendiary device on your car which caused it to catch fire..OBV. Cheesy

lol, nah mate, good try at the old detective work but this was in a different car, one which up to now has not caught fire. I'm back in the burning one today though
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2008, 11:13:29 AM »

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I got stopped for speeding by ukranian police yesterday, I'd even slowed right down as I know where the police are every day. I was on the main L'viv-Kyiv highway which is the equivalent of the A1 in the UK and which has a speed limit of 130 so I was somewhat surprised when told I was in trouble because they'd clocked me at 71. It turns out they've reduced the speed limit to 50 on a 200 yard stretch outside the police station so they can catch and fine drivers (the 50 max signs are hidden in bushes). To say I was unimpressed is an understatement, especially as the speed limit in towns/built up areas is higher at 60 so I point blank refused to fill in any of their forms accepting to pay the fine or to take option b which is to pay a small bribe and just argued with them for 10 minutes. In the end they realised they weren't going to get any cash out of me and let me go. Not before they gave me a demo of how the speed gun worked though which was quite good fun.

Lol, got to love the former Soviet police... pure comedy. At least until they get their guns out and lock you in their car.

What are you up to in Ukraine gatso..? And is there any decent poker in Kiev that you know of..?
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2008, 05:52:30 PM »



What are you up to in Ukraine gatso..? And is there any decent poker in Kiev that you know of..?

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