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« on: February 05, 2008, 05:21:18 AM »

According to the general rules/etiquette in poker who would be expected to show their cards first ?

After the river card 2 players are left in.

A) Player A checks, Player B checks.

B) Player A goes all in, Player B calls.

C) Player A bets minimum bet, Player B raises all in, Player A calls.

Would the showdowns be exactly the same for both tournament play and cash games ?



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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 06:04:14 AM »

does it really matter?
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 06:23:23 AM »

No not at all, my apologies for posting such an inane question.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 06:36:41 AM »

According to the general rules/etiquette in poker who would be expected to show their cards first ?

After the river card 2 players are left in.

A) Player A checks, Player B checks.

B) Player A goes all in, Player B calls.

C) Player A bets minimum bet, Player B raises all in, Player A calls.

Would the showdowns be exactly the same for both tournament play and cash games ?





A) Clockwise from button
B) Player A
C) Player B

It is from the last aggressive action or if you believe you have the winning hand, table it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 06:55:45 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 08:04:42 AM »

Agree with Dik

UNLESS either player A or Player B has the nuts (not very likely in case a) - considered slowroll if you get the other person to show first, THEN show the nuts.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 08:11:42 AM »

does it really matter?

Actually yes it does.....all information is information. If I have the right to see a players hand during a comp I always without exception ask to see it. You have already been given the answer
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 08:47:55 AM »

does it really matter?

Actually yes it does.....all information is information. If I have the right to see a players hand during a comp I always without exception ask to see it. You have already been given the answer

I'm not really a live player but that's horrible etiquette isn't it?

Perhaps you should read "Elements of Poker"

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In 20 years of poker I don't recall ever asking to see a losing hand when I have won the pot. I dont think it's nice to rub the loser's nose it. (I consider it bad etiquette)

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 10:30:44 AM »

does it really matter?

Actually yes it does.....all information is information. If I have the right to see a players hand during a comp I always without exception ask to see it. You have already been given the answer

I'm not really a live player but that's horrible etiquette isn't it?

Perhaps you should read "Elements of Poker"

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In 20 years of poker I don't recall ever asking to see a losing hand when I have won the pot. I dont think it's nice to rub the loser's nose it. (I consider it bad etiquette)

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Probably right mate but there you go......if it is their turn to show then I want to see
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 11:05:39 AM »

Afraid I'm asking to see a lot of the time too.  Especially if my opponent is an aggressive player.  In my limited experience, I've found that it slows them down a bit in future hands if they're made to show.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 11:07:28 AM »

down my local they ask after every showdown as routine, people not in the hand ask as well. The funny thing is that i don't think they have any idea what to do with the info anyway, morons.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 11:35:37 AM »

down my local they ask after every showdown as routine, people not in the hand ask as well. The funny thing is that i don't think they have any idea what to do with the info anyway, morons.

 

I only ask if it is a hand that I am involved in and it is their turn to show......
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »

A, A, B, Yes.

It really irritates me that some players, well known players too insist on showing last whatever.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 11:50:11 AM »

A, A, B, Yes.

It really irritates me that some players, well known players too insist on showing last whatever.

Karabiner is spot-on there, & that's why Taximan's question is a good one. It's become quite common of late for players who have won a hand, to wait, at Showdown, until they have seen the other hand(s). This is wrong, & improper. Strictly speaking, the A, A, B sequence is correct. Waiting for oppo to turn over, irrespective, is wrong.

The other variation which amuses me greatly is at Showdown, after a big Pot, both players are reluctant to show first, & the convo goes thus.....

"You got the flush then?"

"No - you got trips"

"No, I got two pair"

"Me too - how big?"

And the rest of the table are sat there, thinking, "FFS JUST TURN YOUR CARDS OVER!"

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 12:26:47 PM »

down my local they ask after every showdown as routine, people not in the hand ask as well. The funny thing is that i don't think they have any idea what to do with the info anyway, morons.

At the £750 event in Luton a couple of weeks ago I saw a free flop in the big blind with 84. The flop brought two eights, and the river brought the case eight. I bet and the other guy called. I immediately said 'there's the other eight' and turned it over. My opponent had a pained expression on his face and mucked. I started raking in my chips.

'What's your other card?' says one of the other players.

I said 'A four, I think', and turn it over. 'Now you know I don't raise limpers out of the big blind with 84 and I'll probably value bet quads on the river'.
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