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« on: February 06, 2008, 12:26:03 PM »

$1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:57:49 ET - 2008/02/06

Seat 1: ausrabbit ($143.05)
Seat 2: biggjohnny ($181.45)
Seat 3: HSV123 ($198)
Seat 4: NostraDonny ($95.10)
Seat 5: GuNNaDoITRT ($77)
Seat 6: Lattibeast ($156.90)
Seat 7: rlatjsdo ($278)
Seat 8: lbcee75 ($177.35)
Seat 9: Hero ($202.45)
rlatjsdo posts the small blind of $1
lbcee75 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Hero raises to $7
ausrabbit folds
biggjohnny calls $7
HSV123 folds
NostraDonny folds
GuNNaDoITRT folds
Lattibeast calls $7
rlatjsdo folds
lbcee75 calls $5
*** FLOP *** [ ]
lbcee75 checks
Hero bets $29
biggjohnny raises to $100
Lattibeast folds
lbcee75 folds
Hero ? 

pushes? folds?

flop bet OOP multi way ok?

biggjohnny is 24/8/2 over small sample
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 12:56:06 PM »

Drawing dead to AdXd
Behind AdAx (if slowplayed and hoping for a squeeze play)
Behind 55 or 44, poss even QQ

Ahead of other PP's that may have flat called (though unlikely to repop to $100 IMO)
Ahead of AdQx or even AdXx

Given that only $36 committed I don't think you're beating that much where even another diamond will definitely save you so should fold
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 01:21:35 PM »

I prefer check/raise or check/call to bet/fold here. You have a bad stack size considering 3opponents and ur strongish but possibly totally screwed holding, by potting it ur pretty much hoping all 3 fold or someone raises so you can have a really tough decision, so it isn't worth it. By c/ring u can probably get money in from hands like Q and other such rubbish. Bet/decisionaments ur more likely to win less from bad hands and be owned if you do get raised and decide to get it in, be opened up to bluffs and generally make mistakes. Am i making any sense?
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 01:51:33 PM »

I dont like the lead because it widens his flop raising range given you are a preflop raiser. I find 3 suited boards are ripe for bluffing at but he has commited a large portion of his stack with the flop bet. I get it in.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 01:52:17 PM »

Drawing dead to AdXd
Behind AdAx (if slowplayed and hoping for a squeeze play)
Behind 55 or 44, poss even QQ

Ahead of other PP's that may have flat called (though unlikely to repop to $100 IMO)
Ahead of AdQx or even AdXx

Given that only $36 committed I don't think you're beating that much where even another diamond will definitely save you so should fold

He is drawing dead to no hand here
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 02:22:44 PM »

Maybe its because im terrible at cash, but even the thought of folding here with a $204 and this flop astounds me.

I get it in very very fast.

The real question would appear if you had black kings imo.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 05:04:48 PM »

Drawing dead to AdXd
Behind AdAx (if slowplayed and hoping for a squeeze play)
Behind 55 or 44, poss even QQ

Ahead of other PP's that may have flat called (though unlikely to repop to $100 IMO)
Ahead of AdQx or even AdXx

Given that only $36 committed I don't think you're beating that much where even another diamond will definitely save you so should fold

He is drawing dead to no hand here

True - it was early for me, but close to drawing dead
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 06:32:49 PM »

God i hate full ring hands cos everyone plays like a total nit.So sod it im going to give my advice like i would at 6 max.

I like the way tighty played it and im not checking this flop. Think you miss quite a bit of value from qx and the bare ace, plus for me to not cbet a flop after being the preflop raisor looks totally suss.

I get it in here, we would be super unlucky to be drawing dead. We are ahead some of the time and have 11 outs alot of the rest of the time giving us 40% equity.

I have a feeling the full ring players are going to disagree with me.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 06:36:55 PM »

Maybe its because im terrible at cash, but even the thought of folding here with a $204 and this flop astounds me.

I get it in very very fast.

The real question would appear if you had black kings imo.

 
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 07:07:57 PM »

I'm for pushing, but only because I am going through an insanely aggressive phase which leads me to quite commonly make big errors, but also makes my opponents make errors as well.  He prob has AdQx or a baby flush maybe even 6d7d, so in the cold light of day its probably a fold.   
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 07:42:34 PM »

I fold this to most players on iPoker, it's almost always a set or a baby flush or  .

big hand big pot small hand small pot makes this a check on the flop for me
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2008, 09:29:42 AM »

Is this one of them 'hindsight hands', were, in hindsight it seems like a fold makes sense more than at the time?  At the time of this hand the push all-in looks a lot more attractive than when analysing the hand now... Ive pushed in this spot too often without having a clear think...
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 09:34:39 AM »

I fold this to most players on iPoker, it's almost always a set or a baby flush or  .



But surely that makes it a call?
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 09:47:11 AM »

I fold this to most players on iPoker, it's almost always a set or a baby flush or  .



But surely that makes it a call?

why?


Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    34.899%     34.90%    00.00%              6219            0.00   { KdKh }
Hand 1:    65.101%     65.10%    00.00%             11601            0.00   { QQ, 55-44, JdTd, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 7d6d, 3d2d, AdQc, AdQh, AdQs }

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 12:57:17 PM »

ty

I pushed without thinking really. On reflection afterwards I had second thoughts

Hero raises to $195.45, and is all in
biggjohnny calls $74.45, and is all in
Hero shows [ ]
biggjohnny shows [ ]
Uncalled bet of $21 returned to Hero
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] [Two Clubs]
Hero show a flush, King high
biggjohnny shows three of a kind, Fours
Hero wins the pot ($374.90) with a flush, King high
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