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« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2008, 02:17:01 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am.
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« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2008, 02:21:12 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why?
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« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2008, 02:39:44 PM » |
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there was 1 guy on the prog that litterally dragged a girl back over the railing and saved her life,and she is still alive today,
i know for a fact that if i saw someone i would do exactly the same thing..
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« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2008, 02:41:05 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule.
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« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2008, 02:46:03 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it?
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« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2008, 03:23:00 PM » |
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there will always be the 1's that would assist and there will always be the 1's who do turn the other cheek and stare from a safe distance.
having being trained in first aid,due to my work it only seem fit that if i saw an incident then i would use my training to assit even if it was just someone who fell over i'd offer to help them up.
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« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2008, 03:36:42 PM » |
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Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then 
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« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2008, 03:40:22 PM » |
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Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then  even if someone fell because they just took a heart attack?
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« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2008, 03:47:08 PM » |
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Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then  I can't help it, but I do find it really funny when old people fall over. I know it's not, and I feel really bad about it, but it's more of an instinctive thing. I am bad.
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« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2008, 03:47:37 PM » |
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I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street.. PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice 
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« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2008, 03:56:26 PM » |
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I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street.. PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice  i just wait til i get home and let my pet frog have them for tea.
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« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2008, 04:08:26 PM » |
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Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on.
I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule.
spot on. and there's the numerous cases of people doing nothing when witnessing assaults on crowded streets or trains etc, etc. as a race we're just pretty horrible even if we like to think otherwise
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« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2008, 04:19:04 PM » |
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Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on.
I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule.
spot on. and there's the numerous cases of people doing nothing when witnessing assaults on crowded streets or trains etc, etc. as a race we're just pretty horrible even if we like to think otherwise yep - I think your own survival instinct kicks in. I'd always have like to think I'd stop and help someone, but I was faced with this a few years ago when I saw a young girl get mugged by a guy in the street round the corner from where I lived. My instinctive reacton was just to run home . I wouldn't have been able to physically overpower the guy, but I might have been able to scare him off, but I guess the fear of getting hurt took over. So I went home and called the police and felt very ashamed and sick with myself for my cowardice 
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« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2008, 04:23:52 PM » |
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yep - I think your own survival instinct kicks in. I'd always have like to think I'd stop and help someone, but I was faced with this a few years ago when I saw a young girl get mugged by a guy in the street round the corner from where I lived. My instinctive reacton was just to run home . I wouldn't have been able to physically overpower the guy, but I might have been able to scare him off, but I guess the fear of getting hurt took over. So I went home and called the police and felt very ashamed and sick with myself for my cowardice  a great example of what I was talking about earlier, we all like to think we'd react in a certain way but when it comes down to it very few people do. it doesn't make us bad as individuals, it's just human nature
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« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2008, 04:43:08 PM » |
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I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street.. PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice  No I just have a collective service once per year  Is it bad to care?
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